[Thankful Jane]

Originally Posted by YP0534

I say I've been on the Internet long enough not to take the bait!

Originally Posted by YP0534

If one were to say they are different, then one surely divides the Trinity too much.
If one were to say they are the same, then the anti-modalists come screaming about heresy.

No, I'll decline to do more than say that I believe what the Bible says in that Christ as the last Adam became a life-giving Spirit and that I believe it was this very same Holy Spirit, and no other, that He breathed into His disciples after His resurrection.

It is not my goal to try to justify the creeds or to comport myself therewith, as I recognize some attempt. I'll leave that to them. It seems rather plain to me the pale fruit of such activities. Moreover, in this discussion, I merely want to emphasize that the grave churchmen of old who invented those things were at least (at the very least) as fallible and subject to error as Lee.

How many life-giving Spirits are there in the universe?

You'll have to say for yourself if you believe in a God of multiple vivifying Spirits simply because it's the opposite of Lee's teaching. I know no such divinity and the musings I've seen thusfar rather substantially fail to measure up to something I could put my confidence in.

I really could care less where this doctrine came from or if it came from anyone in particular. The discussions running counter to it are just really weak and illogical.

That's all I'm really saying. I'm completely open to hearing Lee was wrong about anything, including this point, but what I've heard herein just ain't it. All I've heard is, well, Lee's doctrine doesn't fit the ancient doctrine very well so we'd like to come up with something different that maybe does fit the ancient doctrine better.

Well, go ask a Jesuit and save yourself the time!

Sorry!

Dear YP0534,

Sorry for my slow response. I've been out and about.

I must say that I was stunned by your response to me. This was not “bait,” but an honest question. I would not say either of the things you suggested. You have misunderstood me.

Here is where I was actually headed with my question: I wanted to know if you believe something was added to the Holy Spirit. In other words, was God lacking something that He needed to become something new that had not been before?

The Bible says God is perfect. That means He is lacking in nothing. Therefore, how we can accept WL’s teaching that something was added to God producing something new?

(BTW, I am not into creeds, etc. KSA will confirm that for you. However, I will say that I have not minded learning about what is contained in the creeds and why they were written.)

I am totally with you as far as sticking to the words of the Bible, and that is the reason for my question.

Thankful Jane