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Originally Posted by aron
I see your argument, but it looks strained, Would anyone ever say, "I used to be Irish, but now I'm a Christian"? No, of course not
Following your logic, we end up in a strange world
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So, would anyone ever say 'I used to be Irish, but now I'm a Christian' is what you think nobody would ever say?
Have I got that right?
Well actually, and for your information, Paul said EXACTLY that!
Unfortunately, there were no Irish people that he knew of back in those days, and so he used a current example...e.g.
"There is neither Jew nor Greek"
Why is there no longer any Jew or Greek?
".. BECAUSE... ye are all ONE in Christ"
And what does that last part mean? (and I've taken note that you like to conveniently leave it out and not address it whenever you whine and complain about this verse).
That last part simply means 'I am a CHRISTIAN'.
So, how does what Paul say differ significantly from what a modern person would say today?
'.. there is neither Jew nor Irish, for we are all Christian (i.e. 'one in Christ')
OR 'I used to be Irish, but now I'm Christian'
So, yes following the logic we do end up in a strange world, but it is a world of faith, for we walk by faith, and not by sight. But the world that you seem to belong to, comrade, well my Bible tells me I'm a 'stranger and a pilgrim' in it (1 Peter 2:11) i.e. a FOREIGNER, meaning I do not belong here.
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (all Jews, by the way) have this witness about them from Paul:
"They all died in FAITH, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and CONFESSED that they were STRANGERS AND PILGRIMS on the earth. For they that say such things (by faith, not by sight) declare plainly that they seek AFTER A COUNTRY OF THEIR OWN.". (Hebrews 11:13-14)
Thank you
I hope my absurdly simple explanation hasn't 'straaained' and taxed you too much again this time.