[Jay]

Originally Posted by aron

Following my last post (#560), let's say the formula "calling ("ooohlordjesus-ooohlordjesus-ooohlordjesus-ooohlordjesus!") is actually drinking the Spirit, and drinking the Spirit fills us with the Spirit, and being filled with the Spirit makes us transformed into the same image, from glory to glory. Suppose that is your premise.

Then, "Just keep eating, just keep drinking" means "that is all you need to do". The "just" part is critical. And the "simple" part. "It's so simple and easy". God's economy has been reduced to a performance, where if you do this, you get that. Simple, and easy.

But any part of that "simple and easy" formula for becoming filled with all the fullness of God can be interpreted other than what WL said it was. When Jesus said, "Blessed is the one who gives a cup of cool water" in Matthew 10:42 may really refer to giving cold water to a thirsty one who's given up their livelihood, and gone out preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. Absolutely not referring to calling, at all. Perhaps it isn't so "simple and easy" as WL said.

And even if, and to some extent, that "calling" can be equated to "drinking" and "drinking" to the "filling of the Holy Spirit" and that to "transformation", there is not one verse to support the idea that any of this is connected to what Paul and Timothy and others were teaching the gentile churches as God's economy. Nothing.

And even moreso, what if you sit around all day, going "Ohlordjesus - ohlordjesus - ohlordjesus - ohlordjesus!" and you don't give a cup of water to the thirsty one? Are you really a disciple, according to Matthew 10? When I was with the FTTA I distinctly remember this being taught - "don't waste your time" on actual good works, just get the good building materials and get them to call "ohlordjesus" with you.

So WL's teaching of God's economy is wrong on several levels. First, it lacks actual basis, then it doesn't have internal coherence, and lastly it requires ignoring the plain teachings of Jesus and Paul.

Ephesians 5:18 says 'do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissoluteness, but be filled in spirit'

And we all know the passage of Jesus turning water into wine and later likening himself to the true vine (John ch. 2 & 15)

These and plenty more verses imply that when we are connected to God we are filled and we drink of him. Really it all makes perfect sense. It's like plugging into the wall to get the electricity. There's no better way to live the Christian life. Should we live in our good behavior? Or our following the law? Or our works? Or should we live by the very life of God? How poor of a gospel is anything else. How poor of a life to have the electrical outlet but not ever actually use it. This is most Christians today. They have the outlet and the plug but they never connect the two. Very sad

And for sake of balance I will say now as I've said elsewhere that no, just calling on the Lord alone is not sufficient. Even the Bible tells us this alone is not sufficient. It says WALK by the spirit (Gal 5:16, Rom 6:4, Rom 8:4). Which means to move around in and by the spirit in our ordinary daily life. This is not just my word, it's also Lee's word-

The Greek word here means to tread all around, to walk at large; hence, to deport oneself, move, and act in ordinary daily life, implying a common, habitual daily walk (cf. Rom. 6:4; 8:4; Phil. 3:17-18). Rcv Footnote Gal 5:16

He says in the next footnote-

According to the context of the chapter, the Spirit here must be the Holy Spirit, who dwells in and mingles with our regenerated spirit. To walk by the Spirit is to have our walk regulated by the Holy Spirit from within our spirit. This is in contrast to having our walk regulated by the law in the realm of our flesh. See note Gal. 3:32

The flesh is the uttermost expression of the fallen tripartite man (Gen. 6:3), and the Spirit is the ultimate realization of the processed Triune God (John 7:39). Because of Christ's redemption and the Spirit's work of regeneration, we who have received God's dispensing can walk by the Spirit, by the processed Triune God, instead of by the flesh, by our fallen being. Paul wrote this book not only to rescue the distracted Galatian believers from the law, on the negative side, but also, on the positive side, to bring them into the realization that the believers have the all-inclusive life-giving Spirit in their spirit that they may live, walk, and have their being in this Spirit. Rcv Footnote Gal 5:16(2)

So obviously this means we still live normal ordinary lives and we don't just sit around all day chanting "oh Lord Jesus"