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Originally Posted by Jay
I never threw out good works. My point is that if we are not abiding in the Lord (John 15:4) then we cannot produce good fruit (good works). Jesus said 'apart from me you can do nothing' (John 15:5). So as I said before, good works ties into God's economy in the sense that good works or good fruits are the result of God dispensing himself as the spirit in his economy. Also righteousness and sanctification are results of our abiding in the spirit. Otherwise our Christian walk and righteousness would just be an outward performance. Which is a major problem with modern Christianity and the denominations. They do things FOR God but ignore God's method of sanctification and transformation. Essentially they ignore Christ and they ignore their spirit. Or we could probably say that they are ignorant of Christ in their spirit. satan loves to keep people in ignorance
We all have to solemnly read Matthew 23:27-28 and question whether we have God's subjective righteousness through the transformation of the spirit, or our own kind of outward righteousness according to the dead letter of the law. One has life, the other is death-
2 Corinthians 3:6b for the letter (the law) kills, but the spirit gives life
What Lee is basically saying here that works (whether righteousness or whatever) that is not out of the spirit, is out of the law. Most Christians fail at this one point. They are unable to gain their good works from out of abiding, and their righteousness doesn't come from the spirit of Christ, it comes from somewhere else. They think they have to DO for God and to be approved by God through their DOING. This is fully wrong according to the Bible. The doing and the working comes out of the spirit (Philippians 2:13). If the spirit is not the source then it's wood, hay, and stubble (1 Corinthians 3:12). Unfortunately most of modern Christians are to some degree caught up in this major error
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When the Blendeds decided to excommunicate the Midwest LC’s some 20 odd years ago, one of their chief criticisms was that our young people’s conferences were engaged in “good works” rather than sitting around and “eating” the ministry of WL.
What you say here may sound “balanced” to you according to the Bible, but has never been practiced in a “balanced” way by LSM. Operatives from LSM/DCP literally came to Midwest LC’s and held divisive training sessions for young people using WL’s teachings about “works” to undermine the leadership in these churches.
It’s not “most of modern Christians” who are “caught up in major error,” but evil workers, what Apostle Paul called religious “dogs,” following WL’s teachings who are in error, and should be “marked out” for causing divisions and stumbling the saints. Read Romans 16.