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Originally Posted by Jay
I believe I read some of her accounts awhile ago regarding Nee. If what she claims is true about Nee then it doesn't sound like the CCP was wholly incorrect for accusing him of being a sexual degenerate. At any rate, I can't say I believe one thing or another. I don't know. It's possible. We all have a strong flesh that wars against our spirit. Does this disqualify him from being a MOTA (or we could argue that there's no such thing as a MOTA anyway, which I've heard others on this site claim)? Maybe, we could also infer that if it's true then God did come in and damage his ministry, and maybe Nee went downhill after that. How long was the resumption of his ministry? 5-10 years? I forget the timeline but he was always under scrutiny and suffering. Not like he had an easy time. And his twenty year imprisonment was probably hell. So maybe God came in and judged idk. Or maybe those sufferings were just general and prescribed for his transformation (Hebrews 2:10). But it doesn't discount what he set up in my view. That's like disregarding the message because the messenger isn't fully right. The message may still be true regardless of the behavior of the messenger. Where this focus on the messenger needing to be totally blameless for the message to be true or received idk where that concept came from. But I will say that if that behavior from Nee is true then it disqualified him from a leadership position according the Bible. Does that annul his message? Does that annul the local churches? I'm sure satan would like it too. But God uses highly damaged, highly fallible men. Look at the personal lives of David, Solomon, and Paul. They were lechers and murderers. Yet they have the highest experiences of the spirit in the entire Bible, and they are personally responsible for setting up God's kingdom on earth. If we throw out the work of Nee and Lee then certainly we have to throw out the books that David, Solomon, and Paul wrote. Do we not?
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Jay, the questions you ask at the end of your post here are the kind of questions the co-workers rhetorically ask in their articles, as if the obvious answer is "no" and the juggernaut of the ministry and the local churches should just continue on unabated, crushing all the victims in its path forever. But there are real answers to those questions.
What is the difference between David, Solomon, and Paul's sins versus Nee and Lee's sins?
REPENTANCE.
This distinguishes these two camps as far as the east is from the west. Rather than genuinely repent after committing sins and perpetuating evil, Nee and Lee would instead double-down, dig in further, and tighten the controls even more, driving out and slashing/burning anyone with a conscience who got in their path. This behavior does indeed annul the message, disqualify them from leadership, and throw the entire concept of the local churches -- founded on the shoulders of two abusive, controlling, unrepentant predators and predator-protecters -- into question.
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