Quote:
Originally Posted by aron
Why is the church in Moses Lake a "rebel church", while WN could form an independent church? And Martin Luther, for that matter? Why wasn't WN's church a "rebel church" also? Why wasn't Luther's church a "rebel church"?
If the Lamb went and took the scroll from Him who sat on the throne in Revelation 5:7, how is the Lamb the Father? How can the Lamb take the scroll from Himself? For that matter, how can the Lamb sit at His own right hand? (Psa 110:1, Matt 22:44)
If LSM puts out a magazine called "Affirmation and Critique", why can't LC members also critique WL's writings, as well as affirm them? Why are they told not to be "negative", but encouraged to be negative against everyone and everything else (I.e. "Christianity" and "the world")?
Why is Affirmation and Critique not a name, also? Or Defense and Confirmation Project? Or Bibles for America? Those are names? Or even "the Thursday night prayer meeting at Sister Smith's house" - that is a name, is it not?
If you think I'm playing games with words, I'm not; in fact it's LC members who are playing with words. They do what everybody else does, which is give things names. LC members are called "saints", while everyone else is not? Unaffiliated Christian groups are called "free groups" and are condemned, while affiliated Christian groups are called "denominations" and are condemned also? It's like WL created a fantasy world where nobody is right, and nobody can possibly be right. How can anyone have fellowship in such an atmosphere, heavy with condemnation and judgment? A place where words mean whatever you want them to mean, only to mean something else when the need changes?
As you can see, I'm a prickly sort. Please forgive me. Obviously I didn't make it very far in the LC system. I just couldn't get out of my mind, sufficiently.
For that matter, why did WL think, and reason, while everyone else was deemed hopelessly deficient and simply recited verbatim what the Seer of the Age (WL, naturally) was thinking? Doesn't this seem like we're being respecters of persons, here? One special person gets a special rule, while the great unwashed masses get another rule?
|
I was born in Moses Lake in 1983. I was around two or three years old when the church in Moses Lake rebelled against brother Lee. I can tell you that I don't know all the reasons they rebelled, but I do think that that rebellion was of satan and greatly used by satan. Our family in fact took a stand with Witness Lee and my father stood up and publicially said he felt to leave the ministry was wrong and they booed him and chastised him and attacked him for it. So our family stopped meeting there and we eventually moved to Spokane in 1990. But we were cut off from the church in Moses Lake for around four years because they defected
Brother Lee was wrong in taking money from the members, but the brothers around him were wrong for trying to hide his involvement in that. And they were wrong for not issuing a public apology and making the error public. Instead they tried to cover it up and to this day I'm sure they still do
But with that said I do believer the Lord's recovery is unique and it's of God, and it's what God is doing today. However the local churches are full of problems and some of those problems need to be addressed and dealt with in a proper way. I do believe there is a type of ambitious leadership control in the recovery. I do believe there is a type of clergy-laity going on that is systematic and longstanding and probably needs to be exposed and corrected. Whether it stemmed from Lee or the brothers directly under him idk. But I also can't throw the baby out with the bath water and say that all of Lee's life work is corrupted. I do believe the church is what God is doing, it's where his blessing is, and I can't fathom going anywhere else. But that doesn't mean there are not large problems to be dealt with within. The Lord said 'many first will be last, and last will be first'