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Old 06-19-2023, 02:12 PM   #152
TLFisher
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Default Covering or Covering Up

The article says many proper things regarding covering. However the question remains, when is covering not covering up?
Perhaps other have sensed as I do, a lack of transparency when meeting with the local churches becomes a lack of trust.
Some may have heard as I did when a brother or sister raises a concern and they become the ones disciplined for bringing forth the concern.

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The principle of appealing to the apostles is illustrated in 1 Corinthians. In 1:11 Paul wrote, “For it has been made clear to me concerning you, my brothers, by those of the household of Chloe, that there are strifes among you.” In Corinth the problem was not with a sinning elder, as in 1 Timothy, but with an inadequate eldership that allowed all manner of disorder to persist in the church. The restoration of the church in Corinth was the outcome of the faithful saints of the household of Chloe, a sister, and other saints making the situation known to the apostle Paul.
How can the apparent contradiction between the story of Noah and Paul’s charge in 1 Timothy 5:19 be reconciled? Both involve failures committed by appointed authorities in God’s government. Noah’s failure did not damage God’s government or diminish Noah’s standing as God’s deputy authority in His government over mankind after the flood. After learning of his sons’ reactions to his failure, Noah still spoke governmentally as God’s representative in dealing with his sons (Gen. 9:25-27). In this case Ham should have cared for God’s government by covering his father’s nakedness rather than speaking about it loosely to his brothers. In order to keep ourselves in the position to enjoy God’s blessing, we should not repeat Ham’s failure but should properly care for God’s government.
The failures of elders that are reported to the apostles according to 1 Timothy 5:19 should be serious failures that damage God’s government or inflict harm on the local church or the saints among whom the elders have been appointed as overseers by the apostles (Acts 14:23; Titus 1:5). Such reporting is itself a caring for God’s government in the church. Because making an accusation against an elder is a very serious matter, for the sake of accuracy, the accusation should present verifiable facts in writing and not merely be spoken. Furthermore, it should not be received except on the word of two or three witnesses.
I think of what happened to Mario Sandoval initially in Ontario, California and subsequently in San Diego, California. Unless Mario is being called a liar, appealing to the co-workers as he did is what they're saying appeal to the apostles (which they are not). The aftermath of what happened to Mario there was a covering/cover up.

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