[Nell]

Originally Posted by BreadFish

Hi, Saints
I truely understand what you are talking. I also acknowledge that there are many problems in Local church. Anyway, we should spend more time to contact with our Lord Jesus and preach Gospel to others, instead of discussing how about Brother Lee, or how about Saint Paul, Saint Barabas? We should follow the good teachings of these brothers, right? Even Barabas left Paul, he is still a pattern of us since he sold all he has and consected himself to the Lord.

I truly don't think you do understand. This forum is full of first-hand accounts of the abusive deeds of Local Church members toward others...mostly LC leadership toward those whom they are attempting to "shepherd".

Many of us kept our mouths shut about this abuse, while taking your advice, attempting to maintain "contact with our Lord Jesus". In my case, I have maintained contact with the Lord my entire life. Now his message to me is: SPEAK. Expose the deeds of darkness by whoever practices darkness. If we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with the Father. I John 1:7.

Witness Lee was not accountable to anyone but himself. Then, under Witness Lee's leadership, the LC leaders learned that they are not accountable for their sinful behavior. Further, they have no problem abusing their brothers and sisters who "stray". Are these the "problems" you are acknowledging?

You are attempting to deflect the blame for the sins of LC leadership in order to maintain the Witness Lee MOTA illusion.

Perhaps you should deliver this message to those who practice abuse of the brothers and sisters as a way of life. Have you done that? You confront us, but have you confronted the sinning brothers?

Our Lord Jesus told us we should pay more attention to the greater things such as "Love, Mercy, Justice", not one tenth of "celery, fennel", either infinite arguments.

Please provide the "verse" you are referencing. There is more than one verse in the Bible. The penalty for what the LC practices might be described as follows:
n Luke 17:2, Jesus says, "It would be better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones." In Matthew 18:6, Jesus says, "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it would be better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." In Mark 9:42, Jesus says, "Whoever causes one of these little ones who trust in me to fall into sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone hung around his neck."

I believe the Lord is working in the Local church. Brothers and Sisters in Local Church are true believers. Those who don't express Lord and misuse debuty authority or otherthings will be resposible for the Lord. Our Lord Jesus is governing all things. The older generation will past, the new generation will rise, the spiritual situation in different Local churchs are updating.

No one here promotes the thought that the Lord is not working in the Local Churches. No one here ever said that the Local Church members are not true believers. This forum exists to discuss the Local Church and the "ministry" of Witness Lee.

We have a real problem with the BEHAVIOR of the Local Church, mostly leadership. We have given multitudes of testimonies of the BEHAVIOR of the LC leadership. We have "covered the brothers" in their sinful behavior long enough. Now is the time to speak.

Those who abuse are responsible NOW. It's called SIN. This is the gospel. Jesus came to save his people from their SINS. Do you believe that the Local Church/leadership are exempt from repenting from their sins? Do you believe that the abusive Local Church leadership are unaccountable for their BEHAVIOR? To do as you suggest is blatant hypocrisy. There is no double standard. We are all the same in His eyes. There is no gospel that says wait until the end and let the Lord clean up the mess we were charged to deal with in our lifetime, in his gospel. Not yours.

Nell