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Originally Posted by zeek
I know Ron Kangas. He was an elder in the church in Detroit, where I first came in contact with the so-called lord's recovery. He was a phenom of spirituality and when, after a year living in the brothers house, I sat in his car with him after a meeting and explained how I had become disillusioned with the state of the local church he prayed with me. We migrated together from Detroit to Fort Lauderdale in a caravan of cars. There brothers who had been elders in this several churches competed for the eldership position in the newly consolidated church. It was a spectacle to behold, but Ron didn’t stay. Witness Lee called him out to Anaheim to work editing his messages for a living stream.
So thank you for your opinion about Ron's opinion. He obviously thinks it's more than an opinion, and apparently so do you. I haven’t seen him or spoken to him since he left Fort Lauderdale. People are deeper and more complex than I could possibly know. What we see of people are surfaces. God judges the hearts. That’s beyond me. May the Spirit of truth guide us from mere opinions into all truth.
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Your personal encounters with Ron may have clouded your thinking about him and what he is all about. I’ve been there, and Ron was one of my favorite “speakers” on conferences and trainings for many years. I can admit that I was willing to give him more rope on his speaking than any other person in the whole LSM. Even when I knew inside that what he said in some of his tirades was just plain dung, (as the MOTA has labeled it). I was willing to compromise the truth for it tickled my ears enough to feel good about myself and what I was a part of.
It is not until I left, and one day was reading John 7, when Jesus said the following statements:
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16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
17*If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
18*He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.………….
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Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
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Your “opinion” about, “What we see of people are surfaces. God judges the hearts.” directly contradicts Jesus himself in the above text. We are to be able to judge for ourselves and discern what and for who these people are speaking for, unfortunately. It will lead to conflict and even divide. Truth divides people, if you like it or not!
You also notice that in Jesus’s own words in Mat 12:24-30, He didn’t condemn the servants for recognizing the differences between the wheat and tares, (which people overlook from the context on purpose to avoid conflict). Why is this important? Because it allows true believers to protect themselves from wolves and false brethren that have crept in. It’s is not our job to go and uproot them, or to get rid of them, God forbid, we leave them to God to do that, but to point them out and avoid them is what every true believer ought to be doing. May God give them according to their works, and may He give us true discernment to be able to make distinctions between man who are there pointing people to Christ, vs pointing people to follow fools like Witness Lee. The person’s speaking and his life doesn’t contradict each other, and if it ever does, there must be contrition or repentance. That never happened in the local church since it’s invention or inception, not with Nee and definitely not with Lee.
Ron is one of the most divisive individuals on earth, who has lost his way long time ago, when he sold his soul to Witness Lee for a position that he still hold to this day. What is unfortunate now, that there aren’t any or very few people today who are willing to say things out loud, call and point out the tares that have made a havoc in a lot of peoples lives. Everyone is looking for peace and tranquillity, oneness, but not many are willing to put their neck on the line to point out the embarrassment that is the local church. You can keep defending it, trying to make it sound as if there was positives to be had, but the fruits say otherwise, and that’s how you determine the difference between the truth and the false reality which has a lot of people in bondage today.