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Trapped · 11-07-2022, 02:41 PM

Hi Unregistered,

If this is your first time posting - welcome to the forum!

I agree with you that it sounds like Witness Lee is trying to equate being drunk with wine to being drunk with the Spirit, but, as usual he is saying something the Scripture isn't actually saying. It's always that tiiiiiny little deviation he likes to throw in there.

The verse says to be filled with the Spirit! Not to be drunk with the Spirit!

It's like saying, "don't be high on cocaine, but be content with the satisfaction that comes from serving others." (do people get "high" on cocaine? I don't know drugs). It's not saying the contentment is a cocaine-like high. They are just saying substitute this better, healthier thing for the worse, damaging thing. It's not necessarily a one-to-one equation, impairment-wise.

The being drunk in Isaiah 29 is like that of a stupor. On the contrary, believers are supposed to be alert and sober-minded. (1 Peter 5:8 - Be alert and of sober mind.)

When the believers in Acts 2 were filled with the Holy Spirit and were speaking in tongues (which means various languages; it does not mean "nonsense" or "babbling"), it was the ones mocking them who labeled them "drunk". It was not the description of the believers concerning believers.

When Paul spoke to King Agrippa in Acts 26, Festus considers him crazy/beside himself, but Paul reassured him in verse 25 that he was speaking words "of truth and sobriety".

"Being drunk" does indeed seem to be another one of Witness Lee's tricks to get people to stop thinking and to not use their mind.

You also mentioned John 6:57 and John 7:37. What about those verses?

Trapped

11-07-2022, 02:41 PM	#3
Trapped Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 1,523	Re: Are we to be “Drunk with the Spirit?”? Hi Unregistered, If this is your first time posting - welcome to the forum! I agree with you that it sounds like Witness Lee is trying to equate being drunk with wine to being drunk with the Spirit, but, as usual he is saying something the Scripture isn't actually saying. It's always that tiiiiiny little deviation he likes to throw in there. The verse says to be filled with the Spirit! Not to be drunk with the Spirit! It's like saying, "don't be high on cocaine, but be content with the satisfaction that comes from serving others." (do people get "high" on cocaine? I don't know drugs). It's not saying the contentment is a cocaine-like high. They are just saying substitute this better, healthier thing for the worse, damaging thing. It's not necessarily a one-to-one equation, impairment-wise. The being drunk in Isaiah 29 is like that of a stupor. On the contrary, believers are supposed to be alert and sober-minded. (1 Peter 5:8 - Be alert and of sober mind.) When the believers in Acts 2 were filled with the Holy Spirit and were speaking in tongues (which means various languages; it does not mean "nonsense" or "babbling"), it was the ones mocking them who labeled them "drunk". It was not the description of the believers concerning believers. When Paul spoke to King Agrippa in Acts 26, Festus considers him crazy/beside himself, but Paul reassured him in verse 25 that he was speaking words "of truth and sobriety". "Being drunk" does indeed seem to be another one of Witness Lee's tricks to get people to stop thinking and to not use their mind. You also mentioned John 6:57 and John 7:37. What about those verses? Trapped