[UntoHim]

Originally Posted by manna-man

Nobody ever claimed nor made an assertion that there will be no final judgment or that the elements of fire wouldn't be used ever.

I didn't say, nor even faintly imply that you made such an assertion. Please read my posts a little more carefully!

My point from the beginning was always [Eternal Torment] this anglicized word i don't use but dismiss for the use of it does have MAJOR consequence and effect on those who use it and abuse it.

If you don't like the way certain words/terms have been used in the English translations then may I suggest that you go get yourself a PHD in the biblical languages, get yourself appointed to a bonafide, reputable translation team and make a difference, my man!

You know what has MAJOR consequences? When people try to change the actual words/terms used by the Lord Jesus and the Scripture writing apostles. This is dangerous. It is not a light thing to change, or even water down the Holy Scriptures to make them comport with our human sentiments. As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” Do you know that there are some "modern" translators/interpreters who want to change this to read "Jacob I loved, but Esau I have loved less". My friends, this is exactly what some have tried to do with this issue of "hell".

I hope that emotions don't get the best of us here and I also hope as well that we can remain open for the discussion/fellowship.

Agreed.
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