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Trapped · 10-14-2022, 11:52 PM

Not sure if the original AMA poster (by the way, Ohio, AMA means "ask me anything") has disappeared because they didn't want to register, or if they were identified by the details they gave and were contacted by brothers and told not to continue posting here, but I just wanted to respond about one thing in particular, regarding their apologetics ministry that defends doctrines in agreement with the core of Christianity AND with LSM.

It’s a small list of doctrines where the core of Christianity and the local church overlap in compatible agreement. You mentioned the Trinity, for example, but that’s not one Christianity remotely agrees with the local church about, so much so that an open letter from 70 Christian scholars was written to LSM asking that the co-workers disavow their incompatible version of the Trinity.

The local church simultaneously claims the Son actually is the Father (not just that the Son is God and the Father is God, but that the Son actually IS the Father) at the same time as it claims the Son and the Father are distinct.

The local church simultaneously claims the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are not three separate persons but is only one person, at the same time claiming a “Triune” God.

They claim things that are both modalist AND trinitarian, all the while, if Hank Hanegraaff is to be believed, proclaiming with great vigor that they are not modalists and are firmly trinitarian.

Those who espouse the core standard Christian teaching of the Trinity would definitely not agree with the Trinity of the local church. Christianity would say the Son is NOT the Father, and that there are “three persons, one God”, not “one person”.

If you do apologetics for the local church version, you are contradicting Christianity. If you do apologetics for the Christianity version, you are contradicting the ministry in the local church.

Original poster - if you have been contacted by brothers who told you not to continue posting here, that is a telltale sign of a group that uses control tactics. If you simply don't want to register, you can always create an anonymous free email address with which to register and remain totally anonymous, if that was your concern. It's always nice to have a current member willing to engage.

Trapped

10-14-2022, 11:52 PM	#15
Trapped Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 1,523	Re: Ask Me Anything: Currently Meeting With The Local Churches Not sure if the original AMA poster (by the way, Ohio, AMA means "ask me anything") has disappeared because they didn't want to register, or if they were identified by the details they gave and were contacted by brothers and told not to continue posting here, but I just wanted to respond about one thing in particular, regarding their apologetics ministry that defends doctrines in agreement with the core of Christianity AND with LSM. It’s a small list of doctrines where the core of Christianity and the local church overlap in compatible agreement. You mentioned the Trinity, for example, but that’s not one Christianity remotely agrees with the local church about, so much so that an open letter from 70 Christian scholars was written to LSM asking that the co-workers disavow their incompatible version of the Trinity. The local church simultaneously claims the Son actually is the Father (not just that the Son is God and the Father is God, but that the Son actually IS the Father) at the same time as it claims the Son and the Father are distinct. The local church simultaneously claims the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are not three separate persons but is only one person, at the same time claiming a “Triune” God. They claim things that are both modalist AND trinitarian, all the while, if Hank Hanegraaff is to be believed, proclaiming with great vigor that they are not modalists and are firmly trinitarian. Those who espouse the core standard Christian teaching of the Trinity would definitely not agree with the Trinity of the local church. Christianity would say the Son is NOT the Father, and that there are “three persons, one God”, not “one person”. If you do apologetics for the local church version, you are contradicting Christianity. If you do apologetics for the Christianity version, you are contradicting the ministry in the local church. Original poster - if you have been contacted by brothers who told you not to continue posting here, that is a telltale sign of a group that uses control tactics. If you simply don't want to register, you can always create an anonymous free email address with which to register and remain totally anonymous, if that was your concern. It's always nice to have a current member willing to engage. Trapped Last edited by Trapped; 10-15-2022 at 09:51 AM.