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Old 09-27-2022, 03:48 PM   #35
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Default Re: YouTube Channel - The Lord's Recovery Unchained

For the sake of future readers going through this thread, I went back and watched the first "The Two Trees" video, and in response to SpeakersCorner's steamy objections:

1. As Zezima said, the videos do indeed constantly "SHOW" what Lee said. Over and over again in ministry quote after ministry quote.

2. Witness Lee did indeed say the load of crap that SC thinks was presented. Lee did say that God said or implied or wanted man to only touch or only eat the tree of life. There are ministry quotes in the very video that show this. He said it flat out, (and he also said it in other ways where he futzed around with words and said it so that that's the impression you came away with...not shown in the video). Additionally, as a church kid, I can confirm that this is the common understanding in the local church. This is how the scenario is presented.

3. However, SC has a valid point that it's not as if Witness Lee never showed Genesis 2:16 in the ministry (which says "And the LORD God commanded him, “You may eat freely from every tree of the garden,"). But as mentioned in point 2, in the cases where Lee acknowledges there are other trees, the way he continues on does make it seem as if even in the presence of the other trees, God still wanted man to only eat of the tree of life. Lee was good at not saying things outright, taking the side-door.

4. Additionally, and I think the brother actually said this in the Introduction video, Witness Lee's body of work is so voluminous, you can almost find any statement anywhere. His ministry is not self-consistent and there are contradictions. If Witness Lee did teach something flat-out wrong, it is still wrong even if you can dig up the correct thing said 40 years prior.

5. SC states that we cannot be 100% sure that the second tree was in the middle of the garden, since it was Eve who stated this. Actually, we can be 100% sure because the Bible states it in chapter 2 before Eve re-states it.
Genesis 2:9
Out of the ground the LORD God gave growth to every tree that is pleasing to the eye and good for food. And in the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Genesis 3:2-3
The woman answered the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden, but about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden...
6. Eve's "center being adjusted" is......a made up thing.

7. There was another post of his that I recall having a 3:17 timestamp reference, but it seems to have gotten lost in the transfer to this thread. If it re-appears, his statements there will produce a similar response.

As always, do your own due diligence. Don't believe someone or be turned away by someone (including me!) without checking for yourself.

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