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Originally Posted by manna-man
The word hell never existed until new testament times.
If there is a hell then nobody dies. Death is a joke and there will be two types of life in eternity. This cannot be so. One life enjoying eternal bliss and the other eternal torment.
The scriptures are very clear. Read Ezekiel 18. The soul who sins shall die.(period)
The soul who turns and does what is right will be rewarded with eternal life.
Genesis..."Partake and you shall surely die."
People minimize death as if it's a cheat from responsility. This couldn't be further from the truth. To be lost in death is great loss!
Now...Let's get to the meat.
In Gods foreknowledge, plan to create beings which would eventually be tormented forever and ever? I'd have to argue that even mere humans have enough intellectual wisdom to understand the cruelty of such a judgement. This is exactly 360° opposite of what we learn of Him.
I'll pipe down for a bit but first I'll ask a question.
What kind of Monster do some believe?
Ask and it shall be given, seek and ye shall find....
Judge God by no means! Question what bothers you!!!��
Peace...
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This is not a topic I've gotten into deeply, but have dug into just a little bit in passing. What stuck with me was reading Matthew 10:28 -
And you should not be afraid of those killing the body but not being able to kill the soul. Indeed rather you should fear the One being able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.
I assumed that the death of the body is what we all mean by death, and that the death of the soul was what the Bible means by "the second death" in Revelation 20 and Revelation 21:
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Obviously if both the body and soul are destroyed, and this is the fate of all those who continue on in unrepentant sin, then existence ceases......at least as I understand it. Can someone exist without even a soul? Not that I've heard.
But where did the concept of unending torture come from? As in, what verses do people use to support that thought?
Trapped