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To be honest, the turn the last portion of posts in this thread have taken has confused and concerned me. The statements that seem to be being made sound very much like the local church, quite frankly. Things like desiring to know things is somehow......bad? Things like we can never trust our clever minds?

These kind of statements are almost carbon copies of similar types of teachings propagated in the LC.

In contrast, the Bible speaks positively of knowledge, it says things like "My people are destroyed because of LACK of knowledge", it says things like we should be "be filled with all knowledge", and "excel in knowledge", etc....

I would understand if I was reading things like "the LC took advantage of the GOOD desire to know things...." but what I read makes it out more like the desire to know things itself is the bad thing. I simply do not agree here at all, if that is what is being said.

And in contrast, the Bible shows that mature believers can discern between good and evil. It shows that believers are entrusted with the ability to judge situations and with the responsibility to discern false teachings and deal with false teachers. I'm not sure where warnings about a believer's "clever mind" are found.

Sure, it exhorts us to be on guard not to be drawn away by deception, but to outright assume from the start that we are automatically deceived unless we receive specific confirmation otherwise? What power is being given to deceiving spirits here! It's like saying the evil spirits automatically start out winning by default every time. The Bible doesn't present things like that....at least to my recollection.

These kinds of warnings about knowledge and our own minds put too little stock in the beings God made in His own image, into whom He has poured out His Spirit.

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