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Originally Posted by Nell
Are you able to support this statement with facts? Dealing with "damages and consequences" is a matter of a return to faith in the Father who loves us and broods over us. He will NEVER leave us or forsake us. We are the ones who left Him for another (Lee). We first must return to Him as the prodigal son returned to his father's house, and was welcomed with open arms. This was my experience. "Lord, I'm sorry. I was wrong. I repent. Please forgive me. You are my hope and salvation...no one else. ...
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I guess testimony’s of countless people on this forum alone, (I won’t even mention elsewhere), in multiple threads is not enough as “statements with facts”, of the mental/phycological/emotional damages that people been exposed to while in the LC. If you think that saying “Lord I’m sorry”, will automatically delete all those issues that compounded over decades sometimes, I’m not in that camp.
I know of dozens of people, even personally, who have completely thrown in a towel after their experience in LC. I won’t name names, just wouldn’t be appropriate, but don’t tell me that those people somehow can just say “I’m sorry” and all is instantly cured and dealt with.
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Originally Posted by Nell
Relying on God and nothing else is the essence of the Christian life. Isn't it?
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Again here,
My previous sentence in that post speaks to what I said. The process of realizing and dealing with those consequences and damages that occurred while one was worshiping (Lee), is what I’m referring too. Obviously if you believe that there aren’t any, then it’s a mood point to even take on.
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Originally Posted by Nell
Rather than discourage people who were trapped in this deception, wouldn't it be more consistent with the Christian walk with God to encourage people with the power of repentance of sins and forgiveness?
Nell
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For anyone to even get to the point of seeking repentance, and forgiveness, there is a need to speak forth the truth, which lead to true repentance. This notion of speaking “positive” messages at 100% of the time, does absolutely nothing in bringing people to God, and realizing the situation. Before anyone is cured or even attempted to be cured from some diseases, one needs to realize that they have one, before they proceed with the process of seeking help.
The book of Acts, records messages given by the apostles, each has a negative portion to it, before the solution is offered to people in form of repentance. Why? Because there is no such thing as repentance and realization of true condition, without understanding the situation in the first place. It’s a 50/50 message, and if it’s tilts one way or the other it’s no longer complete.
Romans 10:17
King James Version
17*So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Word of God is not a lollipop to the color of my choice and flavor, so we ether keep it that way and, or just eliminate all not so positive things from it and just keep pounding on some verses that make one feel good and positive and never tell anyone that they have been exposed to some deadly disease. Let’s see the results of that.
I could say more on this, but will stop here to keep it somewhat short.
Thanks