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Old 07-24-2008, 03:57 AM   #2
YP0534
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Originally Posted by KSA View Post
1 Cor. 15:45b is one of the cornerstone scriptures in LC. Therefore, I think it deserves a separate thread. For starters, I would like to mention some thoughts of mine.

1) Christ became a life-giving spirit in His humanity. Therefore, it was not the second in the Trinity becoming the third.

2) A life-giving spirit in this verse mainly refers to the glorified body of Christ that became spiritual. A life-giving spirit is a metonymy here.

Any thoughts?
Your observation about Christ's humanity is well taken and is something Lee himself taught. It was the addition of the element of humanity which was different.

But I'd like you to expound upon your concept of "life-giving spirit" as "a metonomy" in this verse.

By definition, metonymy is "a figure of speech in which one word or phrase is substituted for another with which it is closely associated."

Which word or phrase do you believe is the stubstutional item and what do you propose it is intended to substitute for?

Examples of this literary device include things like e.g. the bottle for alcoholic drink, the press for journalism, skirt for woman, Mozart for Mozart's music, the Oval Office for the US presidency. A well-known metonymic saying is the pen is mightier than the sword (i.e. writing is more powerful than warfare).

I just don't see this concept at play in this verse.

And, not to be too harsh, but, if you can respond with a concrete answer to this question, please then also support your response with citations from the immediate context of the verse.

Having experienced Christ's vivification, as I believe regenerated believers do, I feel I do have some appreciation of this verse at least from that perspective and I don't understand your comment about there being a literary device here.

Do you mean to suggest that Christ is NOT a life-giving Spirit?
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