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Old 03-19-2022, 08:47 AM   #11
Paul Vusik
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Default Re: Questions to ask current members?

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Originally Posted by Zezima View Post
Having a large portion of my social group and community still in the Lords Recovery.. I have a strong desire to bring them out of the highly toxic and abusive teachings. I realize that in order to do this, I have to be delicate. The best way I think is to pray, and to ask questions that cause them to critically think on somethings.

What are some good questions to ask current members that could help start their process to leaving?
Zezima,

The biggest thing that everyone will ever deal with, when it comes to trying to minister to the people in LC, is the fact that at some point of their lives the line of demarcation that exist in most people, which differentiates and separates an individual from their beliefs, HAS BEEN DESTROYED! (I’ll say purposely, by the man that run this scam) Meaning, that when you even approach anything, speak or ask anything, it will be viewed for the most part as a personal attack on the individual, rather than what they believe/teach. It is intertwined, inseparable. I dealt with this personally for a very long time, until I realized what’s happening. It’s emotional attachment, that’s very difficult to penetrate.

In my own attempts to deliver some basic things to the people that are very close to me, I noticed that although they will vehemently disagree and even “bind you”, and say that “you are of the satan”, “how can you attack the “church””, “you not in your spirit”, “We don’t believe the same God”, “show me your “corporate Body”, and what not, and all other Jambalaya that everyone here knows and heard. But if you let them clearly know that, “this is not a personal attack on you, or anything that I have to tell you, is not about you as an individual” prior to saying or questioning what they believe, I have been able to share some things. Beyond that, it is not up to me to lead anyone out, or try to pry them away from what they love. I don’t think that having anyone trusting me, about what I have to say is a Biblical way, they already trusted a man once, so don’t be the next one in line. It’s only when a person decides that they can stand on their own two feet, fend for themselves trusting God to take full care of them, trust the Word alone, then they will able to hear and listen to anything and have a discernment to know what is true or false. It’s very difficult approach, but it’s the only way that the person will be able to cut all ties, because God will cut them and not you or I. Loving them unconditionally, even if they hate you for what you saying is also a great tool in everyone’s toolbox.


One more thing: when I was going through my own process of getting out, there was never any person that told me that I was in the wrong place. I didn’t read anything or even had anyone invested or helping me in any way. One thing I did, is eliminate for 30 days (that was my plan), all books, all sermons, all messages, all meetings, all footnotes, morning revivals (I eliminated them about 4-5yrs in), everything! I found a Bible, verse by verse, studying and praying to God, “ I know I’m doing something, and following something that’s not right in my heart and in my spirit. I trust that your Word is living and able to lead anyone to the correct path! I put my trust in You, fully, and You lead me there. Illuminate your Word to me, and show me where I’m wrong”. It took a month of daily time, and those 30 days are still running to this day, because it’s a beautiful thing.
Although now, I can pick up any book or start listening a sermon, and I would be able to say in the few minutes whether I want to keep reading or listening it, due to its content. God will take care of a trusting person, anyone who believes in Him! He will send the correct people, information, songs of encouragement, everything! Fear of unknown is what keeps people chained! Read Hebrews chapter 11, which is a great encouragement to trusting God!
Don’t want to get off the subject matter of the thread, so may God give you the wisdom and the way forward. I have my beautiful wife and kids, who are still in LC, so I know the exact feeling or experience you have on the daily basis.
God bless!
Thanks
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