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Old 03-11-2022, 09:04 AM   #5
Paul Vusik
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Default Re: Who’s really causing the division?

I have been looking for this quote or better to say tirade, that I heard about 10 years ago, and only found a snippet of it. (If someone has the full audio of this, please post it here for the record). This quote below from Mr. Ron Kangas, describes what LC is, and exactly what it stands for to the tee. Although majority of the people will never publicly admit this, and say otherwise, the truth of the matter is that all of their teachings are based on these principles from both man that invented this thing. I could not attach the audio file to this post on this forum, since it’s saved on my computer. If someone has the full audio of this as an online link for people to hear the actual audio, please attach it for the records.

“The history of the Lords Recovery, is the history of coming out of, and being outside of the present evil age. According to Gal 1:4, there is a present evil age, the context of this book demonstrates that evil age was Judaism. For us today in principle, CHRISTIANITY IS THE PRESENT EVIL AGE! Today, we need to be delivered from Christianity, the religious age in our time. Let’s not tell Christianity, “you need to be delivered from Christianity”, we need to be delivered from Christianity!!! We really don’t need to follow Christianity’s way, of Christian rock, we don’t have to follow the Calvary Chapels Saturday night concert approach to evangelism, we don’t need to focus on the family, we don’t need to advocate a prison ministry, a homeless ministry. We need to be delivered, subjectively, from the influence of Christianity in our being, it got into our blood. So we need to be rescued from any remains of the pernicious influence of the religious Christianity, the inward effects of Christianity on our beings. We need a radical rescue intrinsically from Christianity, let’s get detoxified, we need to be detoxified from Christianity, and just have a pure life of the triune God flowing in our beings.
There should be no bridge between the local churches and Christianity. What do we have to be ashamed of? We are meeting on the ground of the oneness of the body of Christ, just like was practiced in the New Testament! What church do you go to? “The”, “The Church”!!! We should be what we are, be what we are, we are the recovery! We need to maintain the gap, between us and Christianity. The wider this gap is, the better, because it is a gap between us and the present evil age. The level of the truth in recovery, makes us unique. We are unique concerning all inclusive Christ.......”

Ron Kangas.

Four item that one could gather from this tirade:

1. We have the and all inclusive Christ, and we are “THE CHURCH” and Christianity doesn’t, and isn’t! - He pretty much makes my point that I made in another thread that they preach different Jesus. (There is also another of his tirades about how Christianity doesn’t have a spirit and don’t know about the spirit on YouTube, I listened to it a while back, and didn’t save the link. If someone knows and heard that audio, please attach. I will try to attach that audio file here this weekend, or as soon as I find it)
2. “We don’t need to focus on the family“ - what a vomit! Please go talk to all the ex church kids or even current members kids who have been destroyed by this scam (they probably will never admit it, until they are gone), and ask them on what they think of it. Quote from “the man” the other day, should speak volumes why this thing is a man made fraud. By the way Ron, Bible says “For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?”, but hey, that’s Bible here, and “it’s not about the truth, it’s about life, so that won’t fit into anything that you believe is of “life”. One day I’ll say a lot more on this matter.
3. “We don’t need to follow the Calvary Chapels evangelizing approach” - Great Sir, but I don’t think that you have any approach to evangelize the people other than that of recruiting operations, AKA the “mormon method”. We better check if they are buying into the visions before they’re accepted to the “exclusive club”. I was there for almost 12 years, not a single Sunday was spent on preaching the gospel that saves!
4. “We don’t need to advocate the prison and homeless ministry” - that’s precisely something that the Jesus of recovery would teach. “Forget about the needy and afflicted! Forget about those poor and the bums on the street! Those people in prison, deserve everything they got, so who cares! Go after the the young, healthy, intelligent, with much better future earnings potential! Go after children and women, most vulnerable of our society! That’s the recovery way, we are in the truth, hallelujah “ We can’t help those people in prison or on the street anyway, so why bother.


Christianity has been under attack for almost 2000 years, and although there are major issues within Christianity, it’s not because of the regular people that just getting fed this kind of ideology, it’s because of the so called “ministry’s”, and people like this who are only about themselves and their own fraudulent scams!
One should also note that for whatever reason, he chose to single out Christians, and not like Buddhist, Mormons, Christian Science, New age, Prosperity cults etc. Maybe that’s his counterparts, and some lost parts of the tribe.

Well in conclusion I say this;
I thank God today that He has taken me out of this deception, detoxified me from these plague teachings, and there is nothing and I mean nothing that they can offer me that will be equal to what Real Christ is and His unconditional love and care is. His true care for the sinners “as Paul said, from whom I am a chief”, the burden, the afflicted, the downright lowest parts of our society. The uneducated, untrained, with nothing to offer! People who are of no use to the scams of this nature, but to Him, are the sons and the daughters of a Living God!

God bless.
Paul.
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