Re: What is the point of control? What do they want?
I haven't heard the elders or coworkers say that you can lose your salvation. But I have heard them say that you can lose the joy of the Lord and stop your spiritual growth and actually become spiritual bankrupt. They also said something about losing your spiritual birthright, the bequests of Christ. I don't remember everything . Ron, Ed, Minoru have all given messages on this.
I was recently with a current full timer in the ftta and another saint. He said when he was in the denominations but contacting the church, chose to leave his church because he felt he didn't love God if he didn't leave his church and enter the recovery. The other saint came into the church many years ago and said the same thing when he left the denominations.
Recently, the brothers been asking the saints if they will be one of the 7000 that don't worship Baal. Meaning they remain in the church. I don't remember the rest of the details. All the messages are 90 minutes or more and very hard at times concentrate and follow.
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