[Nell]

Originally Posted by Timotheist

I saw this and decided to give this one more try. I love this subject because I had some ‘a-ha’ moments last year that cleared up a lot of questions for me:


1: What do the four colors signify?

2: What do the horses in Zechariah do, and how does their function relate to the 4 seals?

Thank you.

3: When were or will they be opened? What does it mean that the Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world?

Open the seals: Something unverified but should be kept in mind, the belief that "In fact, virtually every prophecy in the Bible has a near-view and a far-view. A prophesy may be fulfilled in the lifetime of the prophet, but it would also be fulfilled again centuries later, usually near the first or second coming of Jesus."

The foundation of the world:
John 17:24 - "loved me before the foundation of the world."
Ephesians 1:4 - "chosen us in him before the foundation of the world "
1 Peter 1:20 - "foreordained before the foundation of the world"
Revelation 13:8 - Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

"Before the foundation" vs. "from the foundation". More questions :-(.
This may link to the "time" vs. "eternity" question. In eternity there is no "before" or "after", now we see the term "from the foundation". What does that mean related to "before". (I hope I'm making sense here.)

"Before" and "after" only occur in "time". This would seemingly sync with the verse in 2 Peter 3:8, "a day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as a day." The context is pretty interesting, too.

"Before the foundation of the world" ... seems to be in eternity?

2 Peter 3:3-8 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

4: And the biggie question: Since the four seals are introduced to John by each of the four living creatures, what do the four faces represent and how are they tied to each of the four horsemen?

I have researched this to the point where I can provide a fairly coherent explanation that leaves me fairly convinced that I am on the right track. I will spend some time writing it up as a short article and hope to post it soon.

In the meantime, I would like to read your thoughts on these questions, the last one in particular.

Ohio...chime in anytime. Zezima?

Nell