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Originally Posted by Nell
Almost every believer I’ve had discussion with believes that we are in the end times and base their belief on the current world situation and US politics and government overreach leading the way.
The main example floating around is the vaccine mandate as a precursor to people being either deceived or conditioned to voluntarily accept what could turn out to be the mark of the beast.
Please understand that I don’t know what I’m talking about. I just want to watch and pray, as we are told to do. And to “look up”. Also, clearly, we’re not in Kansas anymore.
Nell
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In all the lead up in Revelation, I don't see anything that indicates there will be precursors or conditionings. I also do not see anything indicating those who receive the mark will be deceived into doing so, or conditioned to voluntarily accept something that turns out to be the mark (also a form of deception).
People thought social security numbers were the mark (a number, everyone has to comply), credit cards were the mark (numbers, everyone at this point needs one to function), and cell phones (numbers, follows you wherever you go, tracks your every thoughts, etc....). Now they think it's a vaccine. But that's not the mark either, or a precursor. They are fearmongering.
The way it is described in Revelation 13-14 seems like everyone will be fully aware of what is going on and makes an informed choice. You will know if you are receiving or denying the actual mark when you get it. Having the mark involves actual worship of the beast.....not "oops I didn't know what this was".
In Matthew 24, Jesus describes things that will/must happen, but regarding none of them does He say "and this is the end". He says "...but the end is still to come". I don't think we are as in the end times as people think. Beginnings of birth pangs maybe? No idea.
Also.....I too do not claim to know or be an expert. Just trying to see what the Word says about it.
Trapped