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Originally Posted by Russian95
The short version is - Lee concealed the unorthodox view of mingling human nature and divine elements in Christ's incarnation by saying it was "not merging into one." In other words, to Lee, since the flour (humanity) and oil (divinity) were mixed in such a way that the flour is still "complete" (the flour is still flour and not oil) and the oil is "complete," (the oil is still the oil and not flour), nothing was changed. This never made sense to me - when you mix to complete things, like red ink and blue ink, a third thing - purple ink is produced. Change is inherent to mixing. Lee tried to twist the English language to say that mixing does NOT necessarily equal change. To conclude, Lee would have us worship a "hybrid Jesus," who is not the Second Person. And that is not any minor point of doctrine but a critical aspect of any Christian's belief system.
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Take a look on ingredients.
In this case I can accept this picture of Tea and water. No body claims that tea and water example was in Bible. This idea is scriptural. God indwelled in Mary. This is mystic and we do not try even understand this. This is a fact in Bible. Jesus has Father God and mother Mary.
Sometimes we do not read carefully what we quoted from WL and can unknowingly missrepresent his words:
.the Bible doesn't say "God entered into man to make the Lord Jesus."
Nope! Bible doesn't say it either WL.
God Himself became a flesh. This is biblical fact.
Luk 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favor with God.
1:31 And behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
1:32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Most High: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
1:33 and he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
1:34 And Mary said unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the power of the Most High shall overshadow thee: wherefore also the holy thing which is begotten shall be called the Son of God.
1:36 And behold, Elisabeth thy kinswoman, she also hath conceived a son in her old age; and this is the sixth month with her that was called barren.
1:37 For no word from God shall be void of power.
1:38 And Mary said, Behold, the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
The Bible says in John 1 that "the Word became flesh". But what does it mean if we hear:One thing became another thing?
Word became flesh" Yes. But really became ANOTHER THING???
hetera- diferrent but among the same species. Hetera colour. hetera trees.
homoiomati- likeness
mathamorfothe- change of shape
and:
διαφορετικός - diaphereticos, dissimilar, different,disperate.
So the question is: what You mean by another and verses plaese to support.
Word "form" rather does not make bigger problem.
Phil 3:21 Who will transform (συμμορφον -symmorfon) our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Math 17.2 And was transfigured (μετεμορφωθη -metemorfōthē, he was tranformed)before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
Math 17:4 And Peter answering said to Jesus, Lord, it is good to us to be here; if thou wilt, we may make here three booths -- for thee one, and for Moses one, and one for Elijah.`
Note, that Jesus got Glory, but was still recognizable.
Ad 6. Phil 2.6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
We can see in this mysterious event:
Unique and only one ( probably, if I my memory is short correct me) situation, where living persons could see dead ones in one place on the Earth.
Jesus was still Jesus Himself, God gave His own acceptation to listen to His Son. Remember verses, that we will live by word of God.
Appearance of Moses and Elijah is also recognizable, so Lord Jesus was over time lapse.
He was, He is, and He will be.
So having this view we can better understand of this so called mingling.
If we want to discuss about mingling we have to know firstly what are substances we join or mingle.
And by the way, when we use words " he took flesh" what we mean by this?
Do we remember that he was 1,2,3,4, 12 years old? 27? Do we think sometimes what kind of live this "mingled" Son of God and Son of Man lived?
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