[Scribe]

Originally Posted by OBW

Equivocation. In terms of our status before God and as brothers and sisters in Christ, there is nothing that categorically distinguishes one from another. You said that I must be a Gentile in a manner that made the gospel I receive different from the gospel that someone else (presumably a Jew) might receive. In that context, there is no Jew or Gentile, etc., yet you made a distinction, suggesting that a different gospel is required and a different kind of judging.

But that is not the same as saying there is no such thing as male and female, husband and wife, etc. To suggest otherwise is a form of equivocation. You are mashing two different discussions that share a word together (but in their separate contexts do not mean the same thing) and making them one. And for what purpose? To mock my honest critique of your talk about me being Gentile.

You wrote......"In my Bible, there is no Jew or gentile".

You have a very small Bible then. In my Bible there is the church composed of those called out of Jew and gentile. The church is the body of Israel's messiah. The chruch is the heavenly bride The church is become as the angel. There is no Jew or gentile, male or female in the Christ. The church is the heavenly called out. And is the Holy spirit of the great mankind. The churches separation from Israel did not end Israel anymore than it's calling ended the nations. In my Bible and my gospel not only does the church enter glory, but then that same church becomes the instrument through which God raises Israel from among the dead and establishes him as royal priest before the nations. The church is son of God to Israel and Israel is firstborn son of Jehovah. Exodus 4:22. The church comes down upon Israel as bride joining to her husband. Jesus the groom is sown in Israel to respond to the churches heavenly ministry. This marriage is in my Bible. This is the selection part of the gospel which follows upon the glory, as I have outlined below. But the gospel does not end there. Yes the church is the holy of holies and Israel is the holy place, but then the gospel goes out to the nations. Israel stands as a holy priest to shepherd the nations into David's kingdom. All the angels watch this grand vision playing out in man.

And my point to you is......if the Lord had not used Peter to open the door to us, the gentiles, and if He had not sent Paul through that door, and if James and the other Jews had not given him the right hand of fellowship, we would have no entrance, no gospel! If you do not carefully attend to this matter, you have "another" gospel. Our gospel comes directly from Pauls hand and we must be careful to attend to it. As the Word must cut straight separation of your spirit, soul, and body, the ministry to and of the church, Israel, and the nations, must be cut straight.

As much as in Christ there is no difference between you and your wife, for there is neither male or female, so in Christ there is neither Jew no gentile. And also, so as much as you do keep destinction of the male and female betwen you and your wife in the world, so is there destinction between Jew and gentile. The church is called, not to confuse this, but to sanctify it. If you can't see this you are in danger of all the judgments written by the hand of Paul in Romans 1.

Originally Posted by OBW

While I would not presume as you do to claim that my word is God, I believe that my word is supported much more clearly by God's word.

And I do not "judge" your teaching. I cannot do that. I can only give my honest critique of your words when placed up against the backdrop of scripture. And when I say "scripture," I am not suggesting that my own imagination qualifies. Just because I might write from what I believe to be inspiration of revelation concerning God, Christ, the church, etc., it does not remove my need to be sure that the existing scripture is in harmony with it before I make even a feeble claim as to its correctness..

I out lined how God sevens Himself to us in the gospel. First He brings us to full condemantion. So great is the condemantion that we cannot judge another for all are already fully judged and sentenced. In humbleness to this first work in the gospel, the Holy Spirit then applies justification to us. In that, the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ becomes revelation. That blood cleanes our conscience so that we can imagine pure thoughts, setting our mind on things above. Your fear of your imagination or even mine against you, is systemic of a lack of trust in that blood, and realization of the "much more "that comes in the sanctification that follows. Romans 5:10.

Originally Posted by OBW

But if I allow my own writing to raise to the level of scripture in my own mind, then the whole of scripture becomes illogic in all parts. And the call "come, let us reason" becomes irrelevant since there is no longer an agreed measure of truth. If I can write and I can call it truth, and you can write and you can call it truth, then if we disagree there is no hope for reconciliation. But if we both can write in the manner you suggest, then one of two things must happen:

1. Truth becomes more relativistic than the worst claims laid at the feet of postmodernism. There ceases to be Truth and we are left with only "my truth."
2. One of us must be deluded as to our charge to write. And how do we make this determination? I determine that you are the false writer and you determine that I am the false writer. We would never choose the other instead of ourselves. And this then presupposes that one of us truly is some kind of oracle of God that everyone should be listening to. God was clear about oracles in the OT. He said that self-proclaimed oracles are not from God.

"Sanctify them in your Truth, your Word is Truth" John 17:17

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven upon all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who hold the Truth in unrighteousness" Romans 1:18

The third thing that happens is the Word rules and we learn to submit and enjoy the right hand of fellowship.

The obedience of faith you write of comes out of hearing and obeying the Word. He is real to defeat you and me. If we write incorrectly he will adjust us, if we write deceitfully we build a case against our own self and we stumble over our own writing and shall be removed. All hold the Truth, but not all come to the revelation of the Truth. You say we can't be trusted to handle the Word. I say the revelation of the Word of the oath is the uniting bond.

I do not determine that you are a false writer. I believe you are writing exactly who you are and this is by the hand of the Lord. The Word is greater even than a man's revelation or faith of Him. Just as Jannes and Janbres opposed Moses with their staff , so are men today. In time the Truth shall stand and those that have faith in Him shall be found leaning on the staff of the Word in hand. I do know that there is a spirit of anti christ that fights to keep the revelation of the anointed Word from man. And i know that it is especially hard to walk as a man in the name of the Arch angel Michael. Nevertheless, it is Christ who loves in us and our faith if the son of God arising in us. So there is hope for all, even a man named Michael,

Originally Posted by OBW

In the mean time, I make no such claim of absolute rightness. I can only defer to that which I know to be right and go there to see whether the claims made by others measure up. So far, you have been found wanting. You may not like what I have said, but I have not said it from my own mouth or from my own "writing." I have spoken from a base grounded in the clear and unequivocal scripture — the true Word of God.

John 17:20"And I do not demand for these only, but also for those who believe into me through their Word". Each saint has a Word. The Bible bears witness to this days present Word in the hand of the saints.

Blessed be the fellowship of Michael and Scribe.
And blessed be Israel from the hand of the church.

Scribe