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Originally Posted by Zezima
It would seem then, that the LR’s overcomer doctrine is one to throw out..
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Let me go back to this previous thing you said (above).
I think the LR's version of being an overcomer is a proper thing to dispense with, in that it was quite heavy on the punishment side. As I've said, since leaving the LC sphere well over two decades ago, I see the preponderance of passages in the NT talking about a race or a contest or an effort, in which there is a prize or something to gain. (see 1 Cor 3:11-13, 9:24, Hebrews 12:1, 2 Tim 4:7, Gal 5:7, James 1:12) The emphasis here is not so much punishment, but rather
a prize to win or lose.
And, as pointed out before, even the verses stating the so-called "judgment seat of Christ/God" (Rom 4:10, 2 Cor 5:10), translate the Greek word "bema" as "judgement seat." And "bema seat" meant a place where someone of authority spoke or the place where the games in the Olympics were judged. I think Paul's reference is to the Olympic games - therefore there was
a prize to be gained or lost . . .
not punishment.
Therefore, if we go through our lives, not being
"faithful in a few things" we will not win the prize and will not hear the Lord's words,
"Well done good and faithful servant, enter into the joy of your Lord!" (Matt 25:23) Rather we will hear what the unfaithful servant in Matt 25:26-30 hears . . . we will not gain the reward for being
"faithful in a few things" and will experience much emotional & spiritual angst resulting in
"weeping and gnashing of teeth."
https://www.gotquestions.org/judgment-seat-Christ.html Ohio is right about there not being a ton of writing or speaking out there about Christians being "disciplined" or loosing out on a prize. Even this article I've linked to talks almost entirely of the positives, that is "the prize" to be gained. But with any prize or goal, there is the possibility of not winning or attaining it.