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Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!
These verses can pertain to genuine, regenerated believers. (I just picked these three out of the several you quoted, as perhaps easiest to make the point.) Let's take the first verse about hating a brother or sister. Is it impossible for a regenerated one to hate another regenerated one and to therefore walk in darkness? I would certainly think so! This is because regenerated ones still have the flesh, and the flesh is capable of the entire litany of nasty things scripture calls out as its characteristics. My flesh is capable of lying, cheating, stealing, drunkenness, carousing, adultery, hatred and even murder. How do I know this? I have done a number of those things after being solidly regenerated! Was I walking in darkness as I did those things? You bet, but I returned to the light. However, at no time did I become unborn of God . . . though I was acting like the so-called prodigal son.
Does that make sense?
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I already brought up "unborn" in another response to you and said explicitly that I am not talking about someone being unborn.......
We have had this discussion in other threads before.....regarding a genuine believer committing these kinds of sins. The way you describe a genuine believer as apparently acting is contrary to the fruits of the Spirit which are what show someone to be a genuine believer. I don't think either of our positions or viewpoints have changed from other threads, and I'm not interested in repeating the same discussion.
If you don't see such a thing as a false believer in scripture.....okay then! I know I'm not going to be the one to convince you
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