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Originally Posted by Ohio
In I Cor 9.24 it says that only "one receives the prize." Yet Paul exhorts us all to "run, that we may lay hold." This verse was always troublesome. I'm not picking sides here, rather mentioning how difficult it is to know definitively.
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I'm with you on the difficult to know!
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Originally Posted by Ohio
Apostle Paul taught there were spiritual, soulish, and fleshly believers. Yes, our faith and our birth of God is what can overcome all things. See, for example, Hebrews 11 for a few stories of old.
Yet, what do we do with those, who were once genuinely born of God, and then never believed again. I'm sure we all have met some like this, who lived their whole life like an unbeliever. How can they receive the same outcome as those faithful martyrs.
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Some would call that a false conversion. I know I've said in a few places there are only true believers and false. I'm happy to be wrong. It just seems like the believer who were once genuinely born of God and then never believed and who lived a carnal life aren't genuine believers. There's no evidence of it in their lives.
This is like the parables of the seeds sown in the soil in Matthew 13 - only one of the four actually "understands" the word they hear and there is fruit. The others (on the path, rocky ground, in the thorns) don't understand it, i.e. what seems to be a false conversion.
Just discussing. I don't think the way Nee/Lee taught soulish believers was true. Maybe soulish believers more biblically taught is true.
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