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Forum: Apologetic discussions 02-15-2024, 05:27 PM

Replies: 591 What is God's Economy? Views: 129,346 Posted By TLFisher Re: God's Economy is in faith Nothing wrong with the practice calling on the Lord, It should not be a mechanical exercise. It should not be a competition display of who can do it the loudest. If the intent of calling on the...

Forum: Regarding The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery 02-15-2024, 05:12 PM

Replies: 119 Open - Interactive Letter to The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery Views: 12,256 Posted By TLFisher Re: Open - Interactive Letter to The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery Titus Chu is still active. Just not affiliated with LSM. Same goes for churches such as the Church in Toronto. Those who wanted to remain loyal to LSM, broke away from the Church in Toronto to meet...

Forum: Regional Concerns 02-15-2024, 05:04 PM

Replies: 35 What's Goin Down Down Under - Australia, New Zeland and South Pacific Views: 18,110 Posted By TLFisher Re: What's Goin Down Down Under - Australia, New Zeland and South Pacific If you examine history more closely the local churches have an remarkable similarities with the Brethren movement of the 19th century. There are other exclusive closed groups like the Plymouth...

Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 02-14-2024, 12:08 PM

Replies: 39 Three questions for Local Church Christians Views: 8,286 Posted By TLFisher Re: Three questions for Local Church Christians If I may interpret what Ohio is saying here, Witness Lee was not the only brother discipled by Watchman Nee. There were many others. What happened to them? We know Witness Lee and Stephen Kaung...

Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 02-14-2024, 12:04 PM

Replies: 39 Three questions for Local Church Christians Views: 8,286 Posted By TLFisher Re: Three questions for Local Church Christians Elders & Co-workers often speak as if they are the absolute authority, but it's without love. 1 Corinthians 13 If I speak with the tongues of mankind and of angels, but do not have love, I have...

Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 02-11-2024, 12:30 PM

Replies: 83 Merged Thread: Ron Kangas Views: 8,601 Posted By TLFisher Re: Merged Thread: Ron Kangas 3 John 9-10 "I wrote to the church, but Diotrephes, who loves to be first, will not welcome us. So when I come, I will call attention to what he is doing, spreading malicious nonsense about us. Not...

Forum: Regarding The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery 02-10-2024, 01:34 PM

Replies: 119 Open - Interactive Letter to The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery Views: 12,256 Posted By TLFisher Re: Open - Interactive Letter to The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery Jay, I think you'll find on this forum many equate the local church ground as a doctrine of dirt. My dad and mom still adhere to the ground doctrine. Others I know still do even if the end result is...

Forum: Regarding The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery 02-10-2024, 01:12 PM

Replies: 119 Open - Interactive Letter to The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery Views: 12,256 Posted By TLFisher Re: Open - Interactive Letter to The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery I had posted that a time or two on this forum. Years ago there used to be a YouTube video regarding Witness Lee speaking the exact message. However Living Stream Ministry did not print his message...

Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 02-10-2024, 01:03 PM

Replies: 83 Merged Thread: Ron Kangas Views: 8,601 Posted By TLFisher Re: Merged Thread: Ron Kangas It comes back to brothers believing they are God's deputy authorities which may explain the pride, assuming to be above reproach, and apparent exemption to accountability.

Forum: Regarding The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery 02-07-2024, 07:24 PM

Replies: 119 Open - Interactive Letter to The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery Views: 12,256 Posted By TLFisher Re: Open - Interactive Letter to The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery It's more about the attitude claiming to be the only legitimate churches in the city. Let's take Renton for example. I've met with denominational and non-denominational assemblies. Each professing to...

Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 02-07-2024, 06:53 PM

Replies: 83 Merged Thread: Ron Kangas Views: 8,601 Posted By TLFisher Re: Merged Thread: Ron Kangas Whatever happened to GF or BS? I thought they were elders as well or at least were when I was there along with Jim. It was Jim along with BS who came to my home before I began meeting with the Church...

Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 02-07-2024, 06:13 PM

Replies: 83 Merged Thread: Ron Kangas Views: 8,601 Posted By TLFisher Re: Merged Thread: Ron Kangas When it comes to the local churches it's hard not to quote James 2 or any part of James. Same would apply to Proverbs. Janes 2:15-16 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily...

Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 02-05-2024, 07:59 PM

Replies: 85 “THE FALSE TRUMPET STILL SOUNDS” - by a former member. Views: 2,926 Posted By TLFisher Re: “THE FALSE TRUMPET STILL SOUNDS” - by a former member. I had heard, but not delved into further the book known as 'The Economy of God" was based on Witness Lee's notes from a T.A. Sparks message.

Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 02-05-2024, 07:51 PM

Replies: 85 “THE FALSE TRUMPET STILL SOUNDS” - by a former member. Views: 2,926 Posted By TLFisher Re: “THE FALSE TRUMPET STILL SOUNDS” - by a former member. When I first really got into reading Nee, is when the alarm bells started going off. When Watchman Nee was saying did not coincide what I was seeing in Bellevue and the local churches in general....

Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 02-05-2024, 07:48 PM

Replies: 83 Merged Thread: Ron Kangas Views: 8,601 Posted By TLFisher Re: Merged Thread: Ron Kangas The same applies when you or I use early Lee to critique "The Lords' Recovery". It's either you're using the ministry to attack the ministry or you're taking out of context.

Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 02-05-2024, 07:47 PM

Replies: 83 Merged Thread: Ron Kangas Views: 8,601 Posted By TLFisher Re: Merged Thread: Ron Kangas When I was meeting with Renton, the lead elder has since passed. He was the most capable in regard to being personable. The ones as found at https://secure.dor.wa.gov/gteunauth/_/#2 struck me as...

Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 02-05-2024, 07:21 PM

Replies: 11 The Empire Strikes Back, Minoru Chen battles Nigel Tomes. Views: 869 Posted By TLFisher Re: The Empire Strikes Back, Minoru Chen battles Nigel Tomes. Autonomous only in the sense of setting meeting times. In every other sense, they're ministry churches. In my time the only local church close to being autonomous was Spokane. I'm sure much changed...

Forum: Regarding The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery 02-05-2024, 07:16 PM

Replies: 119 Open - Interactive Letter to The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery Views: 12,256 Posted By TLFisher Re: Open - Interactive Letter to The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery I think it is hypocritical will take the road to sectarianism. Hypocritical in the sense. Take for example the pseudo Blended MR from Bellevue. Paraphrasing an example he gave regarding the local...

Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 02-03-2024, 12:20 PM

Replies: 149 1,000 Years of Outer Darkness Views: 174,064 Posted By TLFisher Re: 1,000 Years of Outer Darkness I would the combination of 1000 years outer darkness/being on overcomer is too much an emphasis in the local churches. I'd agree it is a driving force in the LC. Brothers and sisters lose sight of...

Forum: Regarding The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery 02-03-2024, 11:43 AM

Replies: 119 Open - Interactive Letter to The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery Views: 12,256 Posted By TLFisher Re: Open - Interactive Letter to The Co-Workers in The Lord's Recovery "The Recovery" does seem like an offshoot of the Exclusive Brethren or perhaps Nee and Lee borrowed what they got from it. After my family and I stopped meeting with the Church in Renton, we began...

Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 02-03-2024, 11:21 AM

Replies: 83 Merged Thread: Ron Kangas Views: 8,601 Posted By TLFisher Re: Merged Thread: Ron Kangas I think it all goes back to the teaching and practice of deputy authority. Brothers whether elders or deacons actually believe they are God's representatives on earth. I heard those claims. That's my...

Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 02-03-2024, 11:13 AM

Replies: 83 Merged Thread: Ron Kangas Views: 8,601 Posted By TLFisher Re: Merged Thread: Ron Kangas Pretty much yes. The speakers have been uplifted and this has going back decades. Some have pointed out their observations at regional conferences. How local leading ones are used as buffers between...

Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 01-25-2024, 04:12 PM

Replies: 59 I'm a student in the FTT - AMA Views: 19,920 Posted By TLFisher Re: More questions When I was meeting with Bellevue, it seemed the Puget Sound localities viewed Spokane being out of step. Doing their own thing and not in coordination with the other localities. Personally I viewed...

Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 01-24-2024, 07:03 PM

Replies: 11 Learned Helplessness Views: 799 Posted By TLFisher Re: Learned Helplessness From a once upon a time churchkid, you were ingrained with submission and authority. Learned helplessness for me was being raised without boundaries, not knowing it needed to be created, and...

Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 01-24-2024, 06:31 PM

Replies: 59 I'm a student in the FTT - AMA Views: 19,920 Posted By TLFisher Re: More questions It is a catch-22. On one hand we don't want "responsible ones" knowing about home lives of the saints. On the other hand we want the "responsible ones" to show care. It's not so easy. I think that's...

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