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Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 01-18-2019, 11:13 AM
Replies: 302
Views: 24,198
Posted By aron
Re: "Publication Work in The Lord's Recovery" doc removed from LSM Websites

Good thing you saved a copy of this document on the first post, because we might otherwise never know it existed!

I did a little exercise just now, and went back to the first post and re-read the...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-18-2019, 03:23 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 929
Posted By aron
Re: Need fellowship here

There are two quite different, yet quite related subjects here. One is love and the other is the removal of the record of sin.

Here I define love operationally, as the willingness and even desire...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 01-17-2019, 03:48 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 319
Posted By aron
Re: Testimony of Lost Sheep

This point's worth pursuing. Pro: receiving someone else's opinion as true brings about harmony, and a sense of constancy, while arguing over opinions leads to dis-harmony and dissolution.
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Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 01-16-2019, 08:18 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 209
Posted By aron
Re: Multiple Testimonies of former Local Church members

From bcbsr:


If the local church gospel leads you to call "Oh Lord Jesus" over and over again, with no knowledge of whom or what you are calling (as Witness Lee's quoted as clearly promoting), as...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 01-16-2019, 04:04 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 209
Posted By aron
Re: Multiple Testimonies of former Local Church members

The way I once put it was, Why does LSM use "Affirmation and Critique" with other Christian ministries, yet categorically forbids critique of it's own? In the local church, if one speaks critically...
Forum: Calling All Saints! 01-15-2019, 04:17 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 297
Posted By aron
Re: Anyone out there from the uk?

Google "Bower House London".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bower_House

https://www.amanatrust.org.uk/bower-house-and-bower-farm

They have some pretty deep pockets.
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 01-14-2019, 03:41 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 319
Posted By aron
Re: Testimony of Lost Sheep

A word on the trinity - when I was in the LC, I avoided the subject because it seemed so hard to "get right" and the payoff was so small. We sang, "It's not for doctrine, it's for dispensing", but...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 01-13-2019, 06:24 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 319
Posted By aron
Re: Testimony of Lost Sheep

LS, Welcome to the forum. I’d like to unpack your comments. It’s often easier to solve problems by reducing them to manageable size. Regarding the trinity, my impression (and other observers as...
Forum: Regional Concerns 01-11-2019, 03:39 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,126
Posted By aron
Re: How to rescue those still in LCs in Korea?

At first glance, David Yonggi Cho and Witness Lee could hardly appear more dissimilar. Cho established a worldly-appearing megachurch, exactly the kind of "fallen Christianity" that Lee so often...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-10-2019, 07:44 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 345
Posted By aron
Re: Charismania, truncation, and understanding

This begins to approach my thinking as well.

A couple of affirming points:

~The gospels and the Acts until Peter visited Cornelius in Acts 10 were all law-keeping Jews, and everything written...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-09-2019, 03:36 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 345
Posted By aron
Re: Charismania, truncation, and understanding

And if there is no Jew or Greek, then how is Jesus repeatedly called their King? "Where is he who is born King of the Jews? For we have seen his star at its rising, and have come to worship him"....
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-08-2019, 06:24 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 345
Posted By aron
Re: Charismania, truncation, and understanding

Yes it goes to the context question. The Bible gives its own context. It is there I find the answers.

One of the most puzzling verses to me was, "And the nations shall walk by its light; and the...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-08-2019, 02:47 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 345
Posted By aron
Re: Charismania, truncation, and understanding

Back to my story: I simply watched a video of a song being played. After the song was over, there may have been an outstanding sermon giving the proper context, or understanding, of the verses in...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-08-2019, 02:34 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 345
Posted By aron
Re: Charismania, truncation, and understanding

Yes and the more context the better. Context brings understanding, and understanding brings changed behaviour, and changed behaviour brings transformation.

"Study, to show thyself approved"; the...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-08-2019, 07:53 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 345
Posted By aron
Charismania, truncation, and understanding

I was listening to a Christian musician go over and over a verse from the Bible. It was in a "Praise and Worship" setting, and the musician, a keyboardist/vocalist with a band, kept repeating the...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-07-2019, 10:55 AM
Replies: 243
Views: 83,700
Posted By aron
Re: Double Standards

I nominate this for quote of the day, especially the last sentence. The whole thing is just displaced anxiety and shame.
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-07-2019, 10:47 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 543
Posted By aron
Re: Corporate Living

Conflict of interest.

Thankfully I was spared this kind of abuse, but I was aware of it. It was a dysfunctional family for sure - if anyone got the proverbial lash, the rest hunkered down & were...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-06-2019, 07:11 AM
Replies: 243
Views: 83,700
Posted By aron
Re: Double Standards

Under the shiny happy faces in the LC there's a dilemma: to be shiny and happy, one can't think, but to "be in spirit". Thinking is supposedly of the soul, which is fallen, controlled by Satan.
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Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-05-2019, 07:42 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 543
Posted By aron
Re: Corporate Living

I had a great time as well. The singing, especially the spontaneous informal singing in smaller groups, was occasionally first-rate. It was a good experience, including the corporate living. But one...
Forum: Regional Concerns 01-05-2019, 09:27 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,126
Posted By aron
Re: How to rescue those still in LCs in Korea?

We had a discussion on David Yonggi Cho on this forum in 2014; here are some interesting points made by a participant:
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 01-05-2019, 09:22 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 935
Posted By aron
Re: My experience as a church kid: Why I want out

I thought the subject may benefit from more extended discussion, and started another thread, "Corporate Living", in the "Orthopraxy" section.
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-05-2019, 09:07 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 543
Posted By aron
Corporate Living

I wanted to give this question it's own thread. Others may also have insights.



Melo,

Thanks for the question. Looking back, I'd say that corporate living was a key tool in the socialization...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 01-05-2019, 04:18 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 935
Posted By aron
Re: My experience as a church kid: Why I want out

The only place Jesus used the word 'oikonomeia' in the gospels is a parable in Luke 16:1-13, where it's translated 'stewardship', i.e. 'position of responsibility' (vv.2,3). There, the focus isn't...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-04-2019, 03:47 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 929
Posted By aron
Re: Need fellowship here

Incredible story. Lord have mercy on the U.S. government employees and their families.

Some years ago my neighbour ran over his dog. I went into the stream-bed where the poor broken creature had...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 01-03-2019, 02:45 PM
Replies: 246
Views: 6,601
Posted By aron
Re: Apostles in The Church: Yesterday and Today

You know, I can't remember his name, just that EM & RK sniggered when someone else had the temerity to call themselves apostles, all the while ignoring the exact same issue with their apostle WL.
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