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Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-11-2019, 04:28 PM
Replies: 137
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Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

That makes a lot of sense. The latest "turmoil" started out with a facebook post. And I think in the eyes of LC leadership, the greatest threat to them isn't the contents of the letter but the fact...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-11-2019, 11:59 AM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,919
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

People like Don Rutledge who were actually there are the most credible sources. People who were never there are not in much of a position to question the firsthand accounts of what happened. It still...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 10-11-2019, 10:19 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 565
Posted By Freedom
Re: Overview of LSM's Divisive Path

Yes and I think that is exactly the issue that Steve Isitt ran into when he first started writing. Some of these issue have been out on the internet now for years, still never addressed by LC...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-10-2019, 03:51 PM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,919
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

:hysterical:

It seems to be the latest thing in the LC - all the talk about "spiritual fathers."
Forum: Early Lee - Later Lee 10-10-2019, 03:49 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 355
Posted By Freedom
Re: Concerning Lee's 1997 Admonition regarding Love

I seem to recall in the mid-2000's, some people in the midwest put out writings referencing what WL spoke. I think there was some response from LSM either in writing or in a semi-annual training...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 10-10-2019, 03:46 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,302
Posted By Freedom
Re: Curious!

When I first heard this recording of RK, I was shocked. I attended numerous trainings, and he always came across and someone to be taken seriously. But hearing him call someone a "man of death"...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-10-2019, 03:23 PM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,919
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

I suppose some do. Maybe others who have been in longer just don't take it all that seriously anymore.

I listened to the recording of the meeting they had during the summer training for past FTTA...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-10-2019, 02:30 PM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,919
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

When looking at the situation that the LC is presently confronted with, and how they are responding to it, credibility is really a key issue. Of course, the LC standard tactic is to attack other...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-10-2019, 01:32 PM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,919
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

I think part of Lee's goal with how he portrayed Nee was for the purpose of establishing that he had been passed the torch from Nee himself. Thus, the view of Nee that people in the LC ended up with...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-10-2019, 10:42 AM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,919
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Yeah, it probably would be fair to say that any account coming from that time period in China should be taken with a grain of salt. A lot of it could very well have been propaganda. We know that WL's...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-10-2019, 09:41 AM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,919
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Yeah, I think understanding Nee and all the things that happened is mostly a matter of just connecting the dots. Even WL's own account of the happenings in China mentions things that would certainly...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 10-09-2019, 09:31 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 565
Posted By Freedom
Re: Overview of LSM's Divisive Path

It seems like they think that if enough time has passed, the situations in question are no longer important. On the contrary, the longer these things have gone unaddressed, the more relevant they...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-09-2019, 02:28 PM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,919
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

I don't think that it will ever be possible to know exactly what happened in China or which account of events is the most accurate. I've seen discussion in the past as to whether or not Lily Hsu's...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 10-09-2019, 01:32 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,114
Posted By Freedom
Re: Pulled in Two Directions

I always heard LC people making a big deal about Nee being borderline genius, having a photographic memory, etc. However, no one ever really talked about how old he was when he started writing. When...
Forum: Early Lee - Later Lee 10-09-2019, 01:21 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 387
Posted By Freedom
Re: Early Lee - Later Lee

Yeah, it's interesting to consider that if WL was removed from the equation entirely if the early success of the LC would have been any different. Probably not. I suppose it's only a given that after...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 10-09-2019, 10:17 AM
Replies: 98
Views: 5,563
Posted By Freedom
Re: YouTube Channel Discusses the Local Church

When was the second RK clip recorded? Is that something recent?
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 10-09-2019, 10:16 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 565
Posted By Freedom
Re: Overview of LSM's Divisive Path

I remember before I had read anything about the LC on the internet, I had been led to believe that it was all written by people who had no relation to the LC and were just making things up. I was...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-07-2019, 02:25 PM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,919
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

I think that for a long time, the LC has been able to characterize all their turmoils as being due to things like ambition. Especially when people don't know the full situation, it might sound...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-07-2019, 12:06 PM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,919
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Yeah I remember hearing similar things. They wanted us to think that all the controversies surrounding the LC were completely normal and to be expected. I think what eventually helped me was to start...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-07-2019, 11:16 AM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,919
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Yeah I remember all the times they told us not to read anything online. I never took it to mean anything because I didn't know what they were even referring to in the first place. I was always under...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 10-03-2019, 09:52 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 900
Posted By Freedom
Re: Pasadena Conference 1988--My Notes of Brother Lee's Speaking

WL's ministry was really always about himself. Among all those who WL eventually saw as threats, they never stole any of his thunder. If anything, they probably could be faulted for how much they had...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 10-03-2019, 09:36 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,114
Posted By Freedom
Re: Pulled in Two Directions

I can relate to this, and I think you are asking all the right questions. When I made the decision to leave the LC, there was a lot of inner turmoil. It was hard to reconcile the things which I...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 10-03-2019, 09:20 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 407
Posted By Freedom
Re: Museum of the Bible mentions the Recovery Bible

It seems that those in the LC consider any kind of outside recognition to be a legitimization of the LC. I'm not familiar with this museum, but I don't see why most people would draw any particular...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-03-2019, 02:50 PM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,919
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

When I see their latest attempts at damage control, I think back to being in the LC. There would be entire meetings dedicated to damage control, usually one of the messages of the semi-annual...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-03-2019, 11:07 AM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,919
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Yeah, in the LC it's all completely subjective besides the obvious things like their insisting on the use of LSM materials. And the scary part of it is that if they are telling members which groups...
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