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Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 01-22-2020, 07:53 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 392
Posted By Freedom
Re: shepherdingwords.com

I think that in the minds of the blendeds, what they perceive to be the greatest threat is not so much what people can read online, but the possibility of people reading things and then being able to...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 01-22-2020, 05:52 PM
Replies: 88
Views: 10,069
Posted By Freedom
Re: Quotes and Quips

WL's ministry is full of statements like this. I think that some find it appealing just because it is so simplistic, in the same way that some people might find a get-rich-quick scheme appealing.
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 01-22-2020, 04:56 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 392
Posted By Freedom
Re: shepherdingwords.com

We have no way of knowing how many people have read these various writings, but just here on this forum, the Speaking the Truth in Love book post shows 28,000 views. Even if half those views were...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 01-21-2020, 05:12 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 392
Posted By Freedom
Re: shepherdingwords.com

A lot of these types of groups simply refuse to acknowledge the concerns of their members, so people take to the internet to voice their concerns, and then these groups fire back on the internet as...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 01-14-2020, 02:18 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 567
Posted By Freedom
Re: A Frustrated Mother

Unregistered,

It is a common misconception that ex-LC members are just out to argue and drag others through the mud. That was my belief for a long time, and in fact, that is exactly what they want...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 12-31-2019, 02:52 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 2,321
Posted By Freedom
Re: LordsRecovery.Org Exposing the Christian Cult of Witness Lee's Local Ch

It's great to have these types of resources available. The LC is able to get away with much of what it teaches because they have made a particular point to silence all opposing viewpoints.

The...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-30-2019, 02:17 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 311
Posted By Freedom
Re: The Lord is not going to build His church by the method of lying

Yes, they became the very thing they set out not to be. The problem that they sought to solve became even moreso of a problem within the LC than many other groups.
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 12-30-2019, 09:54 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 1,517
Posted By Freedom
Re: They Actually Try to Defend the Way Ron Kangas Spoke About his Wife

What is really interesting with many of the current events in the LC is that a lot of these statements being made by Ron and others are fairly straight-forward as to what is being said. For example,...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-30-2019, 09:17 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 311
Posted By Freedom
Re: The Lord is not going to build His church by the method of lying

I think a lot of the problem with the LC is that they are absolutely convinced that they have a special "vision" and purpose. Among those in the LC who are the most dedicated to those supposed...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 12-18-2019, 02:25 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 1,517
Posted By Freedom
Re: They Actually Try to Defend the Way Ron Kangas Spoke About his Wife

Each time they write another one of these articles, they take the default stance that the LCM can do or say nothing wrong and then proceed to accuse others of deliberately misinterpreting what was...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-18-2019, 10:05 AM
Replies: 257
Views: 14,206
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

This is one of the things that the LC just gets completely wrong. Throughout history, Christianity has always been involved in social causes and reform. It wouldn't even exist without that.

One...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 12-10-2019, 03:50 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 761
Posted By Freedom
Re: A System of Error?

It's interesting to consider how various LC teachings and doctrines have contributed to the culture that exists within the LC as well as the abuses that have occurred. There are the obvious teachings...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-09-2019, 05:09 PM
Replies: 257
Views: 14,206
Posted By Freedom
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

This is an interesting way to look at things. All speculation aside, one of thing things that I find to be most ironic about Nee's life is that he really wasn't around to see the fruit of what he...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 12-09-2019, 05:02 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 2,321
Posted By Freedom
Re: LordsRecovery.Org Exposing the Christian Cult of Witness Lee's Local Ch

It really is all about control. What makes matters even worse is that a lot of the rules are unspoken, so when someone does try to protest, there is gaslighting involved.

When I lived in a...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 12-08-2019, 12:22 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,234
Posted By Freedom
Re: Why isnt anybody besides Cal, Jo, and Andria speaking out about the Chu

The LC tends to make a big deal about other Christians not accepting certain teachings of WL/WN. When I was beginning the process of leaving, it certain became of interest to me to see how the LC...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 12-07-2019, 06:38 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 2,321
Posted By Freedom
Re: LordsRecovery.Org Exposing the Christian Cult of Witness Lee's Local Ch

It looks like a lot of time was spent on this site, and I think it will be very informative to those who come across it.
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-07-2019, 06:34 PM
Replies: 257
Views: 14,206
Posted By Freedom
Re: John Ingalls

I remember the blendeds making reference to these 'private' conversations with WL. At the time it sounded reasonable. Later on, I remember questioning their appeal to what WL did or didn't say, since...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 12-07-2019, 06:22 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,234
Posted By Freedom
Re: Why isnt anybody besides Cal, Jo, and Andria speaking out about the Chu

The LCM has a litigious reputation, and I think there is definitely an element of fear involved. No one wants to be targeted for simply speaking out. And that is exactly what the LC does.

As...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 12-05-2019, 12:05 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 7,313
Posted By Freedom
Re: Sad Funny Ridiculous

Just about every attempt the LC makes to eliminate any "negative" publications, they end up compounding the problem and making it even worse for themselves. This will continue to happen.
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-03-2019, 04:28 PM
Replies: 257
Views: 14,206
Posted By Freedom
Re: John Ingalls

This type of pattern is evident throughout LC history. When they get to define what is "evil" means, it provides them with the rationale for just about any action. This type of recklessness is the...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-03-2019, 12:56 PM
Replies: 257
Views: 14,206
Posted By Freedom
Re: John Ingalls

I can still remember like it was yesterday how big of a deal the blendeds made about TC, even though most of us on the west coast had no idea who he even was. But the blendeds did make the message...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 12-03-2019, 11:23 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 2,939
Posted By Freedom
Re: Wake-up Letter to Minoru

Leaving the LC is no easy feat. And that is just the beginning. One still has to decide what happens next, what they believe, and what they really want. It seems though that it can be difficult to...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 12-03-2019, 09:11 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 2,939
Posted By Freedom
Re: Wake-up Letter to Minoru

The unregistered poster has yet to expound upon their post, but the statements made are highly indicative of what LC leadership is probably "selling" people in the LC. Promises of revival, telling...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-02-2019, 08:23 PM
Replies: 257
Views: 14,206
Posted By Freedom
Re: John Ingalls

The article from sheherdingwords.com completely mischaracterizes the issue. JI was forced out because WL was intolerant of any sort of criticism. Long before JI was quarantined, I think he and others...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 12-02-2019, 11:18 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 2,939
Posted By Freedom
Re: Wake-up Letter to Minoru

Would you mind clarifying your comments? In my last post on this thread, I referred to the LC as a system that has failed it's members. Consider each of the major so-called turmoils that occurred...
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