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Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread Today, 08:10 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 193
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Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond.

After God created both Adam and Eve, Genesis 2:24-25 says:

24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.
25 Adam and his wife were both...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies Today, 05:15 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 366
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Re: Wow, What Did I Grow Up In?

The church I'm now in went through a portion of Genesis a little while back related to marriage, as well as the verses about husbands loving their wives as their own bodies, and loving as Christ also...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles Today, 02:15 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 243
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Re: Deceiving and Self-Serving Terms

The God-ordained way (regarding the gospel) is that we plant and water, and God gives the growth. Lee had strategies and plans and exponential calculations and rules imposed on saints. God just...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies Today, 02:07 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 366
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Re: Wow, What Did I Grow Up In?

Yeah, I started noticing several years ago that they "start 'em young", that's for sure. In some localities the truth schools/SSOT's even have the young people brothers sitting in the front row, as...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies Today, 12:43 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 365
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Re: Thoughts, Questions, And Wanted Discussion On Local Churches

Where behaviors come from is an interesting question, and not one I'm sure I have any kind of answer or many formed thoughts about. Numerous behaviors in the local church line right up with typical...
Forum: Suggestions and Feedback Yesterday, 08:28 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 129
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Re: 可以有中文版的嗎?(Translated into English)

Is there anyone who knows Chinese well enough to tell us if the Google translate is an accurate rendition of what was posted?

Chinese-speaking saints make up a respectable portion of the LC as a...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies Yesterday, 08:25 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 363
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Re: Where Should I Meet If Not At The Local Church?

Welcome Peter2020!

Glad to see your post, and hope you can say more and engage a little.

I had a few thoughts when reading your post. These are coming from my perspective, or my filter, as...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 09-17-2020, 07:34 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,718
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Re: The Recovery of The Local Churches in Vietnam

Hodos,

I hope they are helpful!

I forgot to send these links along. This is a two-part interview with the authors of one of the books I recommended, "The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse". ...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 09-17-2020, 07:31 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 366
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Re: Wow, What Did I Grow Up In?

Welcome JD620!

In short, the answer to your question in the title of your post is this: you grew up in what can be called "an abusive church". Or "an aberrant Christian group".

Was it...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 09-17-2020, 06:19 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 11,758
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Re: Quote from today's Witness/Watchman Wednesday

That says so much, doesn't it?!

I know the verse says "Therefore, there is now no condemnation for/to those who are in Christ Jesus" but I think it's also okay to keep in mind "there is no...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 09-16-2020, 09:25 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 11,758
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Re: Quote from today's Witness/Watchman Wednesday

Yep, and you've just hit the nail on the head of what a particular subset of church kids have lived under for several decades of their life into adulthood - that it's God's good pleasure to crush us....
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 09-16-2020, 09:15 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 365
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Re: Thoughts, Questions, And Wanted Discussion On Local Churches

Welcome jigsaw44!

I only have a short window to say something but will try to follow up with some more thoughts on the rest of your post in the coming days. But regarding your point #1......
...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 09-11-2020, 09:04 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,718
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Re: The Recovery of The Local Churches in Vietnam

Hodos,

Thank you for the clarification. I think I understand now.

Have you read any books on spiritual abuse? For example "The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse" by Johnsen and VanVonderen? Or...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 09-10-2020, 08:15 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,718
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Re: The Recovery of The Local Churches in Vietnam

So there was a second document signed with a reduced number of elders signing it? When was the first document promising loyalty to LSM (the bond) cancelled? When was the second document signed? ...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 09-10-2020, 08:08 PM
Replies: 116
Views: 17,516
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Re: Quotes and Quips

Sorry, StG, I was too myopic in my response and didn't include a "granted" or an "I can see that xyz" anywhere. I'm very, very tired so if this doesn't quite make sense.....please have mercy and...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 09-10-2020, 12:34 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,718
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Re: The Recovery of The Local Churches in Vietnam

Hodos,

I still owe you a response about the minister of the age (MOTA) (although you do reference deputy authority in your latest post and there is some overlap between the two concepts), but just...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 09-10-2020, 06:25 AM
Replies: 116
Views: 17,516
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Re: Quotes and Quips

John 14:15 - “If you love me, keep my commands.

John 15:10 - If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.

Christian...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 09-08-2020, 08:44 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,127
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Re: Negative speaking

I only had a short time while getting ready for bed to listen to the last ~4-5 minutes of this clip, but the message is clearly that the OT and NT special people saw and were given a revelation of...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 09-08-2020, 06:00 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,127
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Re: Negative speaking

Was also reading in 1 Corinthians 11 today and chuckled at verse 17 from Paul to the Corinthians:

"In the following directives I have no praise for you, for your meetings do more harm than good."...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 09-07-2020, 11:07 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,127
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Re: Negative speaking

Yeah, and get this quote from Watchman Nee in "The Two Principles of Living":

Christianity does not have an outward good and an outward evil. It does not have a definite standard in place. I may...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 09-07-2020, 09:31 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,127
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Re: Negative speaking

Yes, there are lawyers in the LC.

I can think of one brother who either serves at, works for, or is at a minimum in cahoots with DCP, who is a lawyer.
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 09-06-2020, 01:45 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 20,084
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Re: What Should be Shouted from Rooftops?

Although, if you follow Matthew 18 all the way through, and they refuse to hear and make themselves as a tax collector, a pagan to you....in other words, an unbeliever.....are you then able to take...
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 09-06-2020, 11:25 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 20,084
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Re: What Should be Shouted from Rooftops?

I read this thread with interest recently. Although it covers a few areas, one I am wondering about is how to square up Matthew 18:15-17 with 1 Corinthians 6:1-11.

Matthew 18:15-17
15 If...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 09-05-2020, 11:25 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,718
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Re: The Recovery of The Local Churches in Vietnam

The MOTA abbreviation stands for "Minister Of The Age". Sorry I didn't say that in my first post. The saints you quoted did not say "minister of the age" (MOTA), but when speaking of Nee and Lee...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 09-05-2020, 10:51 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 4,401
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Re: They Actually Try to Defend the Way Ron Kangas Spoke About his Wife

Yeah, just wanted to say that I agree with what Ohio wrote here in bold. If you picture Ron's shameful speaking about his wife in a home or family setting, his behavior becomes all the more shocking...
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