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Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-03-2018, 10:08 PM
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Re: Chinese/Asian Influence in The Local Church

On the "no individual distinctiveness" thing that Lee's footnotes say.....just wanted to mention that I came across a paragraph in Lee's "A Timely Word" that states (underlining mine):

"It is...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 07-10-2018, 04:11 PM
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Re: Chinese/Asian Influence in The Local Church

I watched her on YouTube recently as it was one of the videos that showed up from my search for some help on how to forgive people who've stabbed you in the gut, know they did it, but who also don't...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 07-09-2018, 10:20 PM
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Re: The Asian Mind/The Western Mind

I have no dog in this particular fight, but this is about the only thing I can find online mentioning the points 6.a-d that also has any slight additional details around it (starts about 8-9...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 07-06-2018, 05:37 PM
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Re: The Asian Mind/The Western Mind

Thanks. Do you know how far back the BPB went?

It's a small point why I'm asking. I was just thinking today about the seven lampstands and that if other Christian teachers, including Nee, said...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 07-06-2018, 05:06 PM
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Re: The Asian Mind/The Western Mind

Is the ground of oneness concept unique to the LRC? Does the LRC consider that a "recovered" concept/practice? Or have there been other groups after the NT time but prior to Nee/Lee who...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 07-02-2018, 08:21 PM
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Re: The Asian Mind/The Western Mind

This still happens in the FTTA (at least in the last 7-8 years). Trainees can literally receive a citation letter essentially questioning their heart for/consecration to the Lord due to a minor (and...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 07-01-2018, 04:31 PM
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Forum: Apologetic discussions 07-01-2018, 04:09 PM
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Posted By Trapped
Re: Chinese/Asian Influence in The Local Church

Yes, I agree (see my response to Drake just now). Lee took the erroneous concept too far and applied it in disastrous ways.
Forum: Apologetic discussions 07-01-2018, 04:06 PM
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Re: Chinese/Asian Influence in The Local Church

Yes, on the divine side the extension from heavenly to earthly is permitted.

1. Nature - do all the churches have the Lord's life/divine nature? Yes.
2. Shape - are they all lampstands? You...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 07-01-2018, 11:46 AM
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Re: Chinese/Asian Influence in The Local Church

I understand what you are saying here. If you have seven of the same items, and you state that they are all gold, all lamps, and all shine light, anyone listening will understand they all look the...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 07-01-2018, 11:13 AM
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Re: Chinese/Asian Influence in The Local Church

There are also many aspects/significances to this portion of the Word. Seven lampstands which refer to seven churches at a specific time in church history are mentioned, but this passage takes on a...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 06-30-2018, 10:55 PM
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Re: Chinese/Asian Influence in The Local Church

I always had trouble with this kind of stuff. In college a well-meaning saint tried to spend time with me but it always centered around reading a ministry book and then asking me to immediately...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 06-28-2018, 08:12 PM
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Re: Chinese/Asian Influence in The Local Church

Surely the Lord's recovery can "recover" the proper use of the word deacon :D

But this isn't an issue that keeps me up and night, and like you said, at the moment we have no proof with the...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 06-27-2018, 07:47 PM
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Re: Finally I decided to not join Full time training.

Drake,

Yyyyyyyyyeahh........I am not referring to official titles. I am not thinking and do not think in clergy terms. I am well aware there are no titles. I am talking about descriptive terms...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 06-26-2018, 05:18 PM
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Re: Finally I decided to not join Full time training.

One time a while back I came across something in the ministry that mentioned deacons and deaconesses, in a positive sense. It occurred to me that although that is in the Bible and is even brought up...
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