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Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-17-2018, 11:05 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Politics and the Church

If you are right does it change anything?
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-17-2018, 09:49 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Discernment of spirits

No, not angry. You wrote nothing that would make me angry. I admit, I challenge, I provoke, I am zealous, but to generate a positive outcome, not to appear angry. I think it is not possible to...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-17-2018, 08:24 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Politics and the Church

Books on American history are not history because they don't include the fact that America was first discovered by the Chinese and will be coming back in future to reclaim their land! That's how...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-17-2018, 07:44 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Discernment of spirits

The bible tells us to "test the spirits to see whether they are from God". And the tests I have provided from Scripture.

You have a serious inability to know right from wrong. The bible is full...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-17-2018, 04:58 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Politics and the Church

Anything that records the past is a historical record. In other words, the Bible has memory. The bible was not a historical record for those who recorded events at the time they happened. But for us...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-17-2018, 04:46 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Discernment of spirits

Although this thread is the same title as the one I started in the main forum, I see this thread is different .

This one seems to be about subjective discernment of spirits. My thread was about...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-16-2018, 06:25 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Politics and the Church

Indeed it would be cheaper for America and cheaper for the countries that have to accommodate them, a win-win for all. These days remote warfare is possible so a physical presence in those countries...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-16-2018, 04:28 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Politics and the Church

Just like the Romans did, this is about America training up local forces in foreign countries to protect its interests or be called upon if necessary. In turn, they receive training from their allies...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-16-2018, 04:11 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Discernment of spirits

1 John 4:2-3, 1 Cor 12:3, 1 John 4:15 seem absolute to me.

If we cannot test the spirits in an absolute and clear way, then we also cannot know if someone is saved or not according to believing...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 10-16-2018, 04:03 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Discernment of spirits

People walk away when they run out of bible verses. He first presented unrelated scripture in Hebrews and Proverbs, then realized verse 6 might be "another test" even though it is part of the battery...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 10-16-2018, 12:38 AM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Discernment of spirits

v 6 is not really a "further test" it is part of 1 John 4:2-6. It surely refers to that already mentioned in 1 John 4:2-3. If we reject the apostle's first-hand testimony of 1 John 4:2-3 about...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-15-2018, 06:34 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Discernment of spirits

"end run around the bible" is an exaggeration. Anyone can see that I am proposing the direct application of 3 key verses about discernment of spirits. I have not ventured beyond that.

The...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 10-14-2018, 09:32 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Discernment of spirits

I understand the different facets of salvation.

However for the topic concerned about who has the Spirit and who does not, who has the genuine anointing and who does not, I think it suffices to...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 10-14-2018, 03:55 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Discernment of spirits

It's good advice for other things but for testing spirits it can lead to the wrong conclusion. Strictly speaking they are not tests of spirits but sound advice for right living. For example, Proverbs...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 10-14-2018, 03:43 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Discernment of spirits

The problem with the "we need further tests" view is that 1 John 4:2-3, 1 Cor 12:3, 1 John 4:15 do not describe any further tests, nor do they say that these tests are not complete. It is only common...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 10-14-2018, 02:29 AM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Discernment of spirits

No, the only tests we should apply are 1 John 4:2-3, 1 Cor 12:3, 1 John 4:15.

1 John 2:20 is not about gut feeling. The true and genuine anointing will always affirm the tests of 1 John 4:2-3, 1...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 10-13-2018, 07:01 AM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Discernment of spirits

Disagree. There is no testing of spirits on this forum unless one applies 1 John 4:2-3, 1 Cor 12:3, 1 John 4:15, which are the verses which show us how to test the spirits. In some versions it states...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-11-2018, 04:53 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Politics and the Church

CNN news says "Trump reluctant to punish Saudis over reporter". "In response to the disappearance of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi, President Trump signaled he was not interested in...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 10-11-2018, 04:55 AM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Blending

It's a fine argument in the proper context - I used that one in discussion about the role of women in the church, if you recall, however, I don't think Lee had in mind to "blend away our gender" or...
Forum: Regarding Registering and Posting on this Forum 10-11-2018, 04:36 AM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: The Mormon Church is "The Church"?

Ok Aron, why don't you list these churches that you say believe in justification by faith. Maybe it is not Luther or Calvin who we should be thanking for sola fide and sola scriptura but these other...
Forum: Regarding Registering and Posting on this Forum 10-10-2018, 10:55 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: The Mormon Church is "The Church"?

That is no excuse, Kentucky is where they recovered the church back to Noah's Ark isn't it?
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-10-2018, 10:46 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: Politics and the Church

I'm generalizing and hypothesizing, that if Trump was in charge of Saudi Arabia.... I should have said some Trump supporters who take his views too seriously, he himself would never do that. Trump...
Forum: Regarding Registering and Posting on this Forum 10-10-2018, 08:39 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: The Mormon Church is "The Church"?

The KJV and its variants use the Coptic versions do they? Even Coptics today do not use ancient Coptic versions of the Bible, they use NKJV etc. Coptic being a dead language is one reason, but more...
Forum: Regarding Registering and Posting on this Forum 10-10-2018, 07:21 PM
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: The Mormon Church is "The Church"?

It seems that you being in the recovery was a waste of time, should have joined the Coptic or EOC.
Forum: Regarding Registering and Posting on this Forum 10-10-2018, 06:52 PM
Replies: 143
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Posted By Evangelical
Re: The Mormon Church is "The Church"?

Of course, go ahead. Let's compare how many things have been recovered by Nee/Lee as compared to the Coptic church. Many positive things have come out of the recovery and these are even stated on...
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