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Forum: Papers by various Today, 06:46 PM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: Testimony of God's Grace - Herald Hsu

Yes, I realized some time ago there are, broadly speaking, no bad guys, just bad ideas.

The Us vs. Them mentality is the bread-and-butter of demagogues and populists. And unfortunately there is...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching Yesterday, 07:06 AM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

Participating on this board isn't all I do. It isn't even the main thing I do.

There are many ways to serve the Lord. All you have to do is pray about it and look around.

I'm not obsessed...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies Yesterday, 06:58 AM
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Views: 379,904
Posted By Igzy
Re: How Much To Throw Out?

The "testimonies" at the end are simply creepy. :stunned:
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-18-2019, 05:02 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

In the interest of taking the high ground, let me suggest that this thread has morphed into a very important topic for which I'm sure no one has all the answers. It could be summarized thusly:
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-18-2019, 12:15 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

If God just wanted Jesus to reprove the ruthless he wouldn’t have commanded us to do it. I think your beliefs are getting in the way of what the Bible actually says .
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-18-2019, 08:23 AM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

I recalled a scene from Driving Miss Daisy. At the end of the film, both Hoke and Daisy are quite old. He visits her in her senior home. They have this exchange.

Daisy: How are you?
Hoke: ...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 07-18-2019, 07:51 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 643
Posted By Igzy
Re: My Hand Is Against The Prophets Who See False Visions....Ezekiel 13:9

I personally don't believe Lee was a charlatan. I believe he was delusional. He really believed his own PR. He really thought he was the ultimate spiritual authority on earth at the time. And he...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-18-2019, 07:17 AM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

"Thus says the LORD, 'Do justice and righteousness, and deliver the one who has been robbed from the power of his oppressor.'" Jeremiah 22:3
Assuming this applies to those victimized by the LR, how...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-18-2019, 06:43 AM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

Okay, you say you are talking specifically, but you are not being specific. WHO EXACTLY is playing the victim? What is your evidence? Do you know these people? Have you observed them firsthand?...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-17-2019, 04:04 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

Indignation about injustice can sometimes be confused with bitterness. I supposed the former can possibly lead to the latter, but it ain't necessarily so.
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-17-2019, 01:43 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

Are you speaking abstractly or specifically? I don't recall anyone actually establishing that anyone in the GLA is actually embittered. I'm not saying no one is, but it seems you are painting with...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 07-17-2019, 09:33 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 585
Posted By Igzy
Re: Quote from today's Witness Wednesday

Lee was actually a terrible communicator.

Look at all the debate between LSM and GLA about "what he really meant." Endless parsing.

You shouldn't have to decipher the teachings of a...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 07-17-2019, 09:16 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 585
Posted By Igzy
Re: Quote from today's Witness Wednesday

I had a problem with that quote, too. How can something God does mean nothing?

Also, the title of the song should be "My Wandering Days," not "My Wondering Days."

I'm wondering if UntoHim's...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-17-2019, 07:00 AM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

This from UntoHim bears repeating.

Tim Keller: Love without truth is sentimentality; it supports and affirms us but keeps us in denial about our flaws. Truth without love is harshness; it gives...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-15-2019, 05:09 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

Everything you said applied to me. Then again it didn't, if you know what I mean.
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-15-2019, 01:56 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

Okay, I think you've made your point, and point taken.

But what you have to realize is this is just your opinion. It's not necessarily absolute fact. I don't think many here want to do anyone...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-15-2019, 07:18 AM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

Well, LSM is the most blatant example, but there are other manifestations as well.

This is why I write more about principles than specifics. Tear down the false principles, and the organizations...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-15-2019, 06:20 AM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

Me, for one. Unless he's had a turn.
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-15-2019, 06:12 AM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

Because people are held in the LR by fear, and that is really not true of the Catholic Church. I was raised a Catholic. Yes, we were taught that it is the "one true church" and all that, but the...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-14-2019, 04:26 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

LSM won't go down until the MOTA lie goes down. If the MOTA lie goes down, then the basis for a new MOTA will be dealt with as well.

This is why I usually speak against the false spiritual...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-14-2019, 11:27 AM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

Sorry, Raptor, but I think you are off-base. That's LR thinking, IMHO.

Marriage can easily lead to being distracted, so let's ban marriage. Sexuality can lead to lust, so let's ban sex. Eating...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-13-2019, 01:24 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

Natural affection isn't favoritism. It's just the natural feeling of liking people. Storge and agape do not have to be mutually exclusive. I can have unconditional love for people and also have...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-12-2019, 06:41 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,159
Posted By Igzy
Re: Erroneous teaching of Lee concerning natural affection

Also, Romans 12:10 says, "Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love."

The phrase "kindly affectionate" in Greek is philostorgoi. It is a unique term here, a combination of the...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 07-11-2019, 09:12 AM
Replies: 115
Views: 2,566
Posted By Igzy
Re: I need a church life that isn't led astray!!!

Back to the subject of needing a church life that isn’t led astray. I’ve given this idea a lot of thought and prayer, and it seems to me there are only three approaches to this.


Join a church...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-10-2019, 01:33 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 966
Posted By Igzy
Re: God doesn't care for right and wrong, only life

There is no tree of knowledge. There is the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

It symbolizes seeking moral truth apart from God.

As for Man becoming God, that's probably a subject for another...
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