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Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! Today, 12:16 PM
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Re: YouTube Channel Discusses the Local Church

You make some really good points here! I must admit I never saw "God's Economy" as such a central thing as some did. Even now, it is occasionally brought up here, but I don't think it has quite the...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching Today, 11:28 AM
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

How about "The First and Only Called-Out Gathering in [your city]"?
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching Today, 09:42 AM
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

Thank you Gospel Geek! Yes, words do mean things. And to your point, if it had been rendered more effectively according to it's meaning, then people wouldn't be thinking of the physical building as...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching Yesterday, 12:50 PM
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

Well don't words mean things when they were used? Ekklesia sure didn't mean church back in the first century!

And interesting word "sylopsistic." I couldn't find it's meaning . . . maybe it...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching Yesterday, 11:16 AM
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

No . . . understand perfectly. As RL might say, "Demonstrating absurdity by being absurd." The point is, why not be clear in our language in the first place, and let the HS do His job through that...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching Yesterday, 10:48 AM
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

Well of course! So to take this to the extreme, why not speak to them in a completely different language?
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching Yesterday, 10:25 AM
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

So what word should be used? For instance, if we asked 100 people what the "church of Christ" meant, we'd get several different answers - from the brick & mortar to the people to who knows what!?
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching Yesterday, 09:34 AM
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

Sure. But what about us? Don't we owe it to unbelievers to share with them the unadulterated word of God?
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching Yesterday, 09:33 AM
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

Amen. I was thinking specifically of Acts 20:28, "the [ekklesia] of God, which he bought with his own blood."
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching Yesterday, 08:28 AM
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

Exactly!!! Too many times when I listen to radio ministers, it sounds to me like they are extolling the book rather than the Author. That is, they talk about how important following the word is,...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching Yesterday, 08:13 AM
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

Well, of course this probably is a minor in the big scheme of things! I know a brother (once ordained Baptist minister BTW) who is much more adamant about the word "church" than I am, and he...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 10-19-2019, 08:38 PM
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

BTW - for anyone interested, here is a wonderful timeline summary of the English Bible, English Bible History (https://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/)

Heady times, to say the...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 10-19-2019, 03:49 PM
Replies: 48
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

For some reason that reminds me of, "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy!"
:hysterical:
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-19-2019, 03:47 PM
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Re: One City One Church, any of the Church Fathers Practice it?

I am one with all believers in this city, county, state, country and world - not because I declare it - but because there is one Spirit in us, in the one body of Christ!
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 10-19-2019, 01:46 PM
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

Well maybe we should start with William Tyndale, which translated ekklesia as congregation (circa 1525).

This is from Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tyndale)
So I still fail...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 10-19-2019, 07:52 AM
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

Yup, I get all that. But don't you agree the simplest, most straightforward thing to do would NOT be to bring in a different word, and rather just translate ekklesia into a directly corresponding...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 10-18-2019, 03:42 PM
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Views: 514
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

Yup, that's right! And Jesus said He would built His ekklesia, not His church.
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 10-18-2019, 12:51 PM
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Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

I think it's an error. Why substitute one word for another, when the word's meaning can easily be translated? "Church" is sometimes associated with the medieval Greek word "kurikon" meaning Lord's...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 10-18-2019, 11:02 AM
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Views: 514
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"Church" is not in the Bible!

Why do translations use the word "church"!?!? It is a really bad substitution for the Greek word "ekklesia," which means "assembly" or "called-out gathering." Translator William Tyndale was adamant...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 10-18-2019, 10:10 AM
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Re: Pay Attention To What They Say "They Are Not"

My responses below to the bolded headings.
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 10-18-2019, 09:31 AM
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Views: 13,165
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Re: Trapped... Help?

Trapped - your whole post (#35) speaks of legalism. When I look back to when I was in the LC system, I now see that I thought at the time I needed some kind of structure to live a "good" Christian...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 10-17-2019, 07:03 PM
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Views: 1,476
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Re: Sad Funny Ridiculous

Hey, I have a pair of smooth cordoba ones that I wear whenever I want to look conservative chic (at least in my own mind . . .)! :skeptical:
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-15-2019, 08:55 AM
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Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

And this is what we (mankind) does over and over by nature. We exalt what we see (some person) instead of the unseen God. The higher the supposed revelation, the more we tend to glorify the...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-14-2019, 11:25 AM
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Views: 3,922
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Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Fine, and you are preaching a little to the choir here regarding knowing history in general. But no eternal profit for me, bro, and no peace to pursue LC history further. It is what it is, and this...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-14-2019, 11:06 AM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,922
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Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

And I love the OT (and new) for just that reason - that it doesn't gloss over all the shenanigans of men! But that is the Word of God and not just men's view on other's failures, right?

Any way,...
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