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Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church Today, 08:02 AM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

Let's not sell those short in the NT that performed miracles. If I could heal people, just by my shadow passing over them, I think most, even atheists, would have to consider that I was a form of a...
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church Yesterday, 09:27 PM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

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If we really get down to it, Dr. Blackwell would be a scholar for Lee to learn from, and reference. But Lee, a self professed history buff, wouldn't cite sources from poor, poor, poor,...
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church Yesterday, 08:14 PM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

Truth is the experience of union with God is a most joyful experience. And the truth is for me is that I can have more of a profound experience of union with God, in the woods, on my back, watching...
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church Yesterday, 11:09 AM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

Hey, we're on our way to defining what it means to become god. Now we know it doesn't mean becoming the trinity, or being worshiped. And oh ... not in the godhead. Our definition is short. I...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread Yesterday, 09:17 AM
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Re: Poor poor Christianity?

You're really seeing into Jesus. If what you're seeing is true then Jesus was Hellenized. In fact, if true, Jesus was a syncretizer of Judaism and Hellenism.
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 07-19-2018, 05:09 PM
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Re: Poor poor Christianity?

Good question. I just assumed they had some kind of conversion experience, a metanoia. But maybe not. Maybe they grew up in their respective denominations, learned there, and expanded upon it,...
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 07-18-2018, 08:13 PM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

Good points bro Ohio. If God's economy produces followers that aren't really much different than nonfollowers, then what's the point of theosis?

If their theosis is just teachings, and different...
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 07-18-2018, 06:35 PM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

Thanks bro Drake. I went back to those two posts, and found no clarity. So let me ask. Those you listed from the Bible, Moses, David, Peter, Bathsheba, et al, were they according to scripture...
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 07-18-2018, 04:03 PM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

Now I see. I think. Basically you are pointing out that all men that God uses are faulty.

But the question wasn't, God using men. The question is deification. And if deified men are as faulty...
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 07-18-2018, 09:42 AM
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Posted By awareness
Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

Not sure what you are trying to say. Could you please re-say it in a different way?

And another Hank aside. Hank is hungry. I got another invite in email from him, offering another book. He's...
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 07-18-2018, 06:57 AM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

Down thru the years I've known big talkers ; those that can talk a good game but can't play it worth a darn.

Athanasius, Ben Blackwell, CS Lewis, Carl Mosser, Witness Lee, and a host of LCer's,...
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 07-17-2018, 06:28 PM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

It's a hard line to draw. First, there's the sons of God in Genesis and Job.

And then Jesus says in Matthew "Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called sons of God.
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 07-17-2018, 06:09 PM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

And I don't see any evidence that Athanasius became God of any sort. So if EO is thanking Athanasius they're thanking someone that said, "do as I say, not as I do ... or rather, don't do."
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 07-17-2018, 01:45 PM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

Of course Jesus. But I like your take on theosis. Essentially, we don't do a thing. It's vouchsafed grace. And we're all little gods even if we don't know a thing about theosis. The fruit will...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 07-17-2018, 10:46 AM
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Re: Politics and the Church

Here's how a sensible president deals with Putin :

http://www.imnothere.org/Obama/ObamaPutin.jpg
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 07-17-2018, 08:01 AM
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Re: Poor poor Christianity?

Nee and Lee would grow up hearing that Western missionaries were Christian Imperialists. So to them it's likely that they considered Christianity poor even before their conversion.
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 07-17-2018, 07:34 AM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

Okay. Amendment to my post #299 : Can we name one?
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 07-17-2018, 07:02 AM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

Know ye not that ye are gods. Deification isn't necessary. We're already gods, all of us, even those stiff-necked Pharisees.

But okay. Some argue for deification. So just who has been deified?...
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 07-16-2018, 08:20 PM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

When has man never wanted to be God? Adam and Eve became "as one of us." If we inherit their sin, then we also inherit that.

So why try to be what we already are? What, if we call on Jesus...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 07-16-2018, 12:14 PM
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Re: Politics and the Church

Yeah, I'm for impeaching Obama and Clinton.
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 07-15-2018, 12:57 PM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

Hank has gone to the EO to become God. What will he be like when he comes back? Will he no longer be The Bible Answer Man? Will he perchance be The God Answer Man?

Basically, I guess, if you're...
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 07-15-2018, 07:16 AM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

Oh! So Hank thinks the EO is better at theosis than the local church. And when has Hank not been wrong?
Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church 07-14-2018, 08:15 PM
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Re: Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox!

CRI can't claim to be against Christian cults any longer, if Hank is their example.

First they said that Lee's local church was a cult. Then they said they were wrong. Then Hank joins another...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 07-14-2018, 03:06 PM
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Re: Depression and the LCs

And if they apply that principle to their child they risk getting legally charged with child neglect and/or abuse, or worse.

There was a brother that I knew back in the c. in Ft. Lauderdale, that...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 07-14-2018, 01:03 PM
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Views: 1,885
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Re: Poor poor Christianity?

Such a gracious post this blind squirrel of biblical proportion genius is shy to crack your nut. But :


Since the gospel of Thomas is just sayings of Jesus some leading scholars surmise that...
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