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Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 08-16-2016, 11:44 AM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: MERGED THREAD: Leaders of the Lord's Recovery There is a lot to be said about the difficulties that leaders face, but that's another subject altogether. With any group, there will always be troublemakers and difficult cases. Even if a group is...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 07-29-2016, 06:16 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: MERGED THREAD: Leaders of the Lord's Recovery A lot of what Lee did could have been 'fixed' a long time ago by a simple admission on his part that he had made a mistake or had a large lapse in judgement. Did he do that? Nope. He instead...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 07-29-2016, 09:23 AM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: MERGED THREAD: Leaders of the Lord's Recovery I used to find it hard to believe that any of the blendeds would have looked up to Philip Lee. I assumed that if anything, he was tolerated for the sake of WL, a past issue that they would be glad...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 07-28-2016, 09:04 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: MERGED THREAD: Leaders of the Lord's Recovery I lost all respect for Ron when I discovered that he is a man who will not stand behind his words. He goes and calls a fellow brother a "man of death." When called to explain his position, he...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 07-25-2016, 06:30 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: MERGED THREAD: Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Agreed. It really does make a difference learning to view things like denominations and sectarianism at face value. What makes the LC seem so compelling and also so hard to escape is that members...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 07-24-2016, 03:08 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: A Pure Testimony of Jesus In the local churches, there is a disturbing pattern of excusing bad behavior and purging those with solid character, who are unwilling to compromise their integrity. I don't think Lee intended the...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 07-22-2016, 07:59 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: MERGED THREAD: Leaders of the Lord's Recovery When Ron publicly defamed Steve, he did so using vague terminology and accusations. And by that I mean language that is elusive to outsiders. His intended message, however, is crystal clear to...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 07-20-2016, 03:33 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: To Leaders of the Lord's Recovery These were my thoughts exactly. The letter implies that Steve is too sure of himself. But that's exactly what this Bellevue elder is guilty of, not Steve. With respect to how LCers view Lee, there is...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 06-12-2016, 01:18 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: MERGED THREAD: Leaders of the Lord's Recovery There is a statement made by Lee found in Indiana’s post, which I think provides some insight into why the local churches slowly but surely became “ministry churches.” Along with re-posting that...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 03-11-2016, 03:19 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: The Minister of the Age Concept Today I think if LC leaders were to self-reflect, they would realized that the path to leadership happened through their own initiative and ambitions. Benson is the prime example of this. This is not to...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 03-10-2016, 04:52 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: The Minister of the Age Concept Today I like this parable because it emphasizes individual responsibility/accountability. This is a concept that is foreign to most LCers, because everything happens at the group level. In the LC, ...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 03-10-2016, 10:45 AM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: The Minister of the Age Concept Today From what I've seen in the LC, any amount of individual spirituality expressed could be potential characterized as seeking to be a "spiritual giant". It's just their way of discrediting those who...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 02-04-2016, 05:44 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: MERGED THREAD: Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Pardon my asking, but who exactly is Larry Chi? Is he someone who was associated with WL in Taiwan?

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 02-03-2016, 06:24 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: MERGED THREAD: Leaders of the Lord's Recovery I think that this is a difficult question to answer. I do think that certain characteristics of WL that later became more problematic were there from day one. I also think that WL didn't set out to...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 02-01-2016, 06:40 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: Eulogy Signs of Sickness I would be the first to admit that I have a difficult time seeing things from WL's point of view. Even if I could better understand him, much of the nonsense that transpired towards the end of his...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 01-29-2016, 03:40 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: Eulogy Signs of Sickness WL's "high peak" ministry happened as he reached his 90's. At such an age, the very fact that he moved to something entirely 'new' seems highly suspect. I wouldn't automatically discount anyone...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 01-29-2016, 10:05 AM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: Eulogizing Witness Lee Yes, it seems that this is the case. Ironically, sometimes leaders will tell members that the so-called backsliders need to be 'recovered'. If members actually took this to heart and just started...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 01-28-2016, 07:29 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: Eulogizing Witness Lee I have seen some devout members leave as well. In many such cases there was no effort to retain such persons. At the time, I couldn't believe that they would just let people go so easily, but they...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 01-27-2016, 08:52 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: Eulogizing Witness Lee The LC does seem to be catered towards a specific group of people, and it’s probably fair to say that it meets certain needs - at least initially. The classic example might be the college freshman...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 01-27-2016, 04:25 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: Eulogizing Witness Lee WL refers to shortcomings regarding the care for certain needs of people. I believe that these were shortcomings in his own ministry. At the point in time at which some started promoting WL as a...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 01-16-2016, 09:46 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: MERGED THREAD: Leaders of the Lord's Recovery The fact that leaders like Ed could admit without remorse to being Lee-pleasers shows how numb they have really become. The fact that this doesn't bother the rank and file shows how well the blendeds...

Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 11-07-2014, 06:53 PM

Replies: 655 Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Views: 386,390 Posted By Freedom Re: MERGED THREAD: Leaders of the Lord's Recovery Yes, I do agree, however, I have appreciated the writings that have been produced as a result of Steve's endeavors. As a disillusioned LC member who began to search the internet, his writings are one...

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