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Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? Today, 08:19 AM
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Posted By UntoHim
Re: Confessing Sins After Salvation?

Good topic Trapped. I think it might be helpful to take a look back at the various offerings depicted in the Old Testament, specifically Leviticus. The sin offering was an offering for sin. The whole...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-07-2020, 11:24 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,413
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Modalism

So what do we do when someone like Witness Lee comes along and says the Lord "illuminated him" to teach that the Son is the Father, and the Son became the Holy Spirit? Should we throw up our hands...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-07-2020, 08:37 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,413
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Modalism

It may cast some doubt in your mind, and in the mind of Witness Lee, but it hasn't for the vast majority of Christian teachers and scholars for the past 2000+ years. So everybody has been...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-06-2020, 09:39 PM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,413
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Modalism

I didn't ask for a massive pneuma word study. I asked if every occurrence of the word pneuma was a reference to the Holy Spirit. A simple yes or no would have been sufficient. Admittedly, this first...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-06-2020, 04:13 PM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,413
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Modalism

Well I'm quite certain Jesus wasn't referring to somebody on an Internet forum giving his take on 1 Corinthians 15:45:)

Mike has been posting on our forum for over a decade. He doesn't deserve to...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-06-2020, 03:30 PM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,413
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Modalism

Question for my dear brothers Ohio and Sons to Glory!
Is every occurrence of the word pneuma (Gk πνεῦμα) a reference to the Holy Spirit? If not, why not?

***It would be super keen if Ohio could...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-05-2020, 09:49 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 733
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Bone of My Bones & Flesh of My Flesh

Sorry Sons to Glory! I wrote this post a number of days ago and thought I had posted it. Come to find out this morning it never appeared on the live forum. Anyway, here is a short retort to your well...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-05-2020, 08:35 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 733
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Bone of My Bones & Flesh of My Flesh

Probably not much of a response because neither statement is biblical, or even carries a faint thought in the bible. The church is "not" a lot of things. The church is not God (despite Witness Lee's...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 06-30-2020, 08:11 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 293
Posted By UntoHim
Re: How is the Virus Affecting You?

Ok, let's stick with the theme that StG! has presented here. All the other side issues are really outside of the purview of our forum. Thanks!
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Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 06-29-2020, 06:04 PM
Replies: 123
Views: 554
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Boxjobox on modalism

Box, please tell us about the "symbolism" of:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God."

I know that folks like you would...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-29-2020, 08:33 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 733
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Bone of My Bones & Flesh of My Flesh

Sons to Glory! Would you like me to comment on this?
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-28-2020, 01:56 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 733
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Bone of My Bones & Flesh of My Flesh

Well since none of the verses you posted say that the church is Christ, I would think that it is off the mark to say that the church is Christ based on those verses.:o

Taking metaphors too far...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 06-27-2020, 07:46 AM
Replies: 89
Views: 6,223
Posted By UntoHim
Re: LordsRecovery.Org Exposing the Christian Cult of Witness Lee's Local Ch

Well Sons to Glory! if you're out to lunch, then I'm out to lunch, dinner and a midnight snack to boot:p Yes, I do remember you posting a really good answer to this question. I think it's on another...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 06-26-2020, 07:45 PM
Replies: 89
Views: 6,223
Posted By UntoHim
Re: LordsRecovery.Org Exposing the Christian Cult of Witness Lee's Local Ch

I do not problem with "oh". Of course I have no problem with "Lord". Of course I have no problem with "Jesus".

I do have a problem with the "calling on the Lord" as it is taught and practiced in...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 06-26-2020, 02:49 PM
Replies: 89
Views: 6,223
Posted By UntoHim
Re: LordsRecovery.Org Exposing the Christian Cult of Witness Lee's Local Ch

Very good article Raptor! The best one that I've ever seen.

Still looking for the "Oh Lord Jesus" though:)
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Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 06-26-2020, 12:32 PM
Replies: 89
Views: 6,223
Posted By UntoHim
Re: LordsRecovery.Org Exposing the Christian Cult of Witness Lee's Local Ch

Thanks for the article Sons to Glory! Unlike Witness Lee, this fellow actually lays out some scriptural references to back up his interpretations. Not sure how good a job he did, but at least he...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 06-25-2020, 09:16 PM
Replies: 89
Views: 6,223
Posted By UntoHim
Re: LordsRecovery.Org Exposing the Christian Cult of Witness Lee's Local Ch

Sons to Glory! Could you please point me to the verse that states that "calling on the Lord" means verbalizing "Oh Lord" or "Oh Lord Jesus".
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Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 06-25-2020, 02:30 PM
Replies: 89
Views: 6,223
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Jacob Howard: O Lord Three Times - The False Gospel of Witness Lee

I'm glad to hear that Trapped! I would image that the practice does vary from region to region/locality to locality. My understanding is that the full-timers/serving ones are also instructed not to...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 06-25-2020, 10:30 AM
Replies: 89
Views: 6,223
Posted By UntoHim
Jacob Howard: O Lord Three Times - The False Gospel of Witness Lee

O Lord Three Times - The False Gospel of Witness Lee
Jacob Howard...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-25-2020, 08:32 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,413
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Modalism

Raptor, Modalism was explained and discussed right at the start of the thread, and has been explained and discussed here on this forum for about 12 years now. For some reason you seem to think if you...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 06-23-2020, 02:00 PM
Replies: 123
Views: 554
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Boxjobox on modalism

StG, this is going to have to be my last response for the day on this thread.

No, your post would not have passed muster...for the reasons that I thought I explained pretty clearly in my last...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 06-23-2020, 01:06 PM
Replies: 123
Views: 554
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Boxjobox on modalism

Well, since the moving of your post is a moot point, I won't address that one.

In regards to your points about John 16:7 - No, I would not say that the thoughts you have put forth "seem like...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 06-23-2020, 10:32 AM
Replies: 123
Views: 554
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Boxjobox on modalism

My friend Sons to Glory! your post was not moved. Your post #23 was a direct response to my post #22 WHICH WAS POSTED HERE ON ALT VIEWS AND NOT THE FORUM HOMEPAGE. :o

Nevertheless, I hope you...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 06-23-2020, 08:59 AM
Replies: 123
Views: 554
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Boxjobox on modalism

Thank you Boxjobox for your kind, reasonable and thoughtful post. This forum could sure use a lot more of this - on the homepage as well as over here in the dongeon:p

Maybe I should give a short...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-22-2020, 08:34 PM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,413
Posted By UntoHim
Re: Modalism

Maybe you didn't, but Witness Lee sure did, and this thread is not about what you have said or even what you believe...it is about what Witness Lee taught publicly for over 50 years. I was there. You...
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