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Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice Today, 05:11 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 140
Posted By aron
Re: The main problem with the LC

There are a number of aspects of that representation. One is the "know-it-all" attitude, along with "we alone have the truth", which is embedded into fixations on certain verses, or parts(!!) of...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 05-25-2020, 11:35 PM
Replies: 110
Views: 80,149
Posted By aron
Re: Combating LC Arguments

The LC is a Chinese guanxi network disguised as a Christian church. Why do you think Lee put his unspiritual sons in positions of power and privilege? Because it's a guanxi network. "Verily I tell...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 05-25-2020, 09:58 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 168
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

It's simple - Christ is the Father (God made flesh) now as the Spirit in you, crying Abba Father back to Him. Since you also are the Father (not as an object of worship, though- that would be...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 05-20-2020, 04:42 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 691
Posted By aron
Re: Responsibility of Christians Responding to Aberrant/Abusive Groups

Yes, I agree. Terms like "perfecting" are successfully placed over shaming and even abuse. Control and manipulation is re-labeled as "taking the cross" and "restrictions". And there is a code of...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 05-20-2020, 04:35 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 272
Posted By aron
Re: Ravi Zacharias 1946-2020

1. Care for the vulnerable
2. Creativity

"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma, which is living with the results of other people's...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 05-20-2020, 01:07 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 272
Posted By aron
Re: Ravi Zacharias 1946-2020

I remember watching a video, some 15-odd years out of the LC, and here's this guy RZ. He's standing on stage, with some young 20-something sitting in a chair next to him, and he's talking. Then he...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 05-20-2020, 11:00 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 272
Posted By aron
Ravi Zacharias 1946-2020

“He saw the objections and questions of others not as something to be rebuffed, but as a cry of the heart that had to be answered. People weren’t logical problems waiting to be solved; they were...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 05-20-2020, 07:12 AM
Replies: 86
Views: 1,846
Posted By aron
Re: What a Lack of Increase Really Means for the LC

No, you're right. I should have put in a number of qualifiers.
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 05-20-2020, 05:40 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 3,699
Posted By aron
Re: A Corona Virus Great Awakening?

Let me restate my premise (cf #s 103,107): assuming the whole world gave you(us) unfettered access to present your(our) gospel, what assurance do you(we) have that it would go any better than the...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 05-20-2020, 03:28 AM
Replies: 228
Views: 25,027
Posted By aron
Re: YouTube Channel Discusses the Local Church

The LR says "we are the genuine [local] expression of God" yet they still teach that all the seven churches in Revelation 2 and 3 were genuine local churches of God, represented by real golden...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 05-20-2020, 03:13 AM
Replies: 86
Views: 1,846
Posted By aron
Re: What a Lack of Increase Really Means for the LC

The most powerful force of the LC is it's mental conditioning of members against other believers. They really believe, "There is nowhere else to go."



I left the LC and reflexively went...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 05-19-2020, 05:28 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 3,699
Posted By aron
Re: A Corona Virus Great Awakening?

I think Joseph is appropriate here. He told his brothers, "What you meant for harm, God has turned to good." We are not smart enough to extrapolate future developments (I'm not anyway), but Jesus...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 05-19-2020, 05:16 AM
Replies: 86
Views: 1,846
Posted By aron
Re: What a Lack of Increase Really Means for the LC

The new ministry content is to help you get into the old content. It's also a weak cover for the fact that there's actually no more new ministry content being produced - the Great Man is gone, the...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 05-18-2020, 04:36 PM
Replies: 132
Views: 3,699
Posted By aron
Re: A Corona Virus Great Awakening?

The topic was not just awakening but Great Awakening. Who was greatly awake but Jesus? Or, if not Jesus, who?

Then, what would it look like, just for a moment, to see the world through Jesus'...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 05-18-2020, 12:56 PM
Replies: 132
Views: 3,699
Posted By aron
Re: A Corona Virus Great Awakening?

There were things in the Stroumsa book (he edited it, there were multiple authors) that I disagreed with, some vehemently. But that people were looking at Psalms' reception in Hebrews was soooo...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 05-18-2020, 12:46 PM
Replies: 132
Views: 3,699
Posted By aron
Re: A Corona Virus Great Awakening?

My comments earlier today were in reference to these kind of remarks, which have no truck with me. My point was that there were 3 separate and distinct epochs in human history when the Christian...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 05-18-2020, 10:10 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 3,699
Posted By aron
Re: A Corona Virus Great Awakening?

Along with the above comments, in order to understand the NT it's helpful to understand how the NT uses the OT. The NT says that: 1) God raised Jesus from the dead and gave him glory; and 2) this is...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 05-18-2020, 07:32 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 3,699
Posted By aron
Re: A Corona Virus Great Awakening?

Kinda like, 'wake up'. A Great Awakening. We can't wake up unless we realise how asleep we've been.

And sorry for the incoherence. It was a kind of stream-of-consciousness that could have used a...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 05-18-2020, 03:13 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 3,699
Posted By aron
Re: A Corona Virus Great Awakening?

I can think of three times in history where the Christian ethos had free and unfettered access to the people's hearts and minds. The Christian faith had untrammeled hegemony, and what happened? As...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 05-17-2020, 06:43 AM
Replies: 95
Views: 1,862
Posted By aron
Re: Soul & Spirit - Same or Different?

This is one of the top ten posts I've seen, explaining to me what happened. I grew up in a broken home, largely ignored save the occasional beating. Nobody really cared about me. In the cult, it was...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 05-17-2020, 06:36 AM
Replies: 86
Views: 1,846
Posted By aron
Re: What a Lack of Increase Really Means for the LC

Not all cults kill their members. Some slooooowwwwllly squeeze the life out of them. It's actually much more profitable- a dead cult member can't contribute to the Guru's family and associates' needs.
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 05-16-2020, 01:37 PM
Replies: 88
Views: 1,365
Posted By aron
Re: POLL: How do you generally view the LC?

StG,

in an attempt to re-center this discussion, can you tell us how to have assurance that Bill Freeman and Patsy Freeman weren't two sides of the same coin? How can we be sure that Bill Freeman...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 05-16-2020, 06:08 AM
Replies: 95
Views: 1,862
Posted By aron
Re: Soul & Spirit - Same or Different?

And yet in the LC whole swaths of text running to the dozens of chapters were deemed "fallen human concepts" because they couldn't be lined up with WL's interpretive matrix. And this interpretive...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 05-16-2020, 05:29 AM
Replies: 95
Views: 1,862
Posted By aron
Re: Soul & Spirit - Same or Different?

I also see this: in the LC we got this vague "sense of life" that was supposed to guide us, whilst plain biblical text was being overturned or ignored, and historical Christian interpretation either...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 05-15-2020, 05:59 AM
Replies: 88
Views: 1,365
Posted By aron
Re: POLL: How do you generally view the LC?

I equivocated, and probably will continue to do so, feeling that God alone is judge, and doesn't go by polls. Yet I don't feel remiss to view this group as among the worst of the worst, and think...
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