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Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications Today, 08:27 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 10,358
Posted By Ohio
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Which requires a certain degree of dexterous flexibility which unfortunately I was never blessed with. Oh well . . .
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications Today, 08:17 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 610
Posted By Ohio
Re: Life Study of Revelation Misses Mark RE: "First Love"

The "ties" with the Waldensians, Albigensians, and others were entirely of the Spirit. Broadbent researched many of these. Their stories were often "reverse-engineered" historically, in other words...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications Yesterday, 05:21 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 10,358
Posted By Ohio
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Sorry. No problem. Yes I do express a few social and political views at times.

Please register. Otherwise I may miss your posts initially, and I only saw these by accident. You are free to post...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications Yesterday, 05:01 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 610
Posted By Ohio
Re: Life Study of Revelation Misses Mark RE: "First Love"

Your study of church history is wanting at best.

The early Moravian (Today's Czech Republic) church (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Moravian_Church) was there with John Huss (Jan...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies Yesterday, 04:26 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 5,205
Posted By Ohio
Re: Sad Funny Ridiculous

The translation by John Ingalls, Bill Duane, and Al Knoch was better than the present one.
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-13-2019, 06:06 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 610
Posted By Ohio
Re: Life Study of Revelation Misses Mark RE: "First Love"

Yes, of course!

But reading Brethren history one is forced to question how anyone could connect them with "Philadelphia." If you want "Philadelphia" in prophetic church history, then take a look...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 12-12-2019, 05:44 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 5,205
Posted By Ohio
Re: Sad Funny Ridiculous

So Steve Isitt's current mission was WL's idea in the first place?

Too funny. Can't make this stuff up, folks. :hysterical:
Forum: Apologetic discussions 12-12-2019, 05:31 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 271
Posted By Ohio
Re: Partial Rapture And Dispensational Punishment

WL, who presented us these teachings, had a team of faithful brothers / sisters surrounding him maintaining his pristine image to all the saints. He was thus portrayed as part of the perfected class...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 12-11-2019, 04:03 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 648
Posted By Ohio
Re: LordsRecovery.Org Exposing the Christian Cult of Witness Lee's Local Ch

My how things have changed!

When I was in the brothers house, video games did not even exist, and one new brother had seen the movie "2001 Space Odyssey" 76 times (and counting). :xx:
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 12-10-2019, 09:52 PM
Replies: 151
Views: 11,298
Posted By Ohio
Re: John Ingalls / Minoru Chen Anaheim Annual Corporate Meeting

Interesting! Reminds me of the Midwest quarantines.

As DCP swept in to steal meeting halls, all the Midwest LC's were suddenly forced to examine their bylaws and prep the saints for contentious...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-10-2019, 09:39 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 10,358
Posted By Ohio
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

As aron has noted elsewhere, all are just "confident amateurs."

Or as Cal has asserted, perhaps better described as "sheepdogs," merely protecting the flock of God from a stray wolf wandering by.
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-10-2019, 10:16 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 10,358
Posted By Ohio
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Since I am so "foolish and slow of heart," (Lk 24.25) can you provide some clarification Gospelicious?

And welcome to the forumGospelicious, please consider registering in the forum using your...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-09-2019, 12:46 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 10,358
Posted By Ohio
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

I have not read everything available, but nothing I have read from WN's ministry after his discipline in 1942 has been healthy or beneficial.

WN left his "vision" of local assemblies administered...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 12-09-2019, 08:15 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,932
Posted By Ohio
Re: Wake-up Letter to Minoru

I have been mulling this thought against the facts of history for several days, and to me it presents several frightening aspects of "Recovery" ministry.

First consider the foundational ideals of...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-08-2019, 10:16 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 10,358
Posted By Ohio
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Personally, as a rule, I prefer to base my understanding on the facts, which does require me to collect huge amounts of information over an extended period of time. My simple conclusion regarding...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-08-2019, 05:01 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 10,358
Posted By Ohio
Re: John Ingalls

When studying Brethren history, so many of their so-called spiritual principles surrounding the initial excommunications of Newton and Muller became codified for further action at a later date. ...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 12-08-2019, 04:30 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 648
Posted By Ohio
Re: LordsRecovery.Org Exposing the Christian Cult of Witness Lee's Local Ch

The site owner comes right out and identifies himself, which I found quite shocking. If he has any vulnerabilities at all, DCP will immediately swoop in to exploit them. Perhaps he is unaware of...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 12-07-2019, 10:54 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 725
Posted By Ohio
Re: Why isnt anybody besides Cal, Jo, and Andria speaking out about the Chu

Are all apostles? Do all speak in tongues?

That was one of Paul's responses to those who demanded the same actions from all.

I personally believe that the numerous and diverse posts on this...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 12-07-2019, 10:16 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,932
Posted By Ohio
Re: Wake-up Letter to Minoru

Initially WL behaved like so many other 60's ministers who saw the undeniably genuine move of the Spirit amidst the chaos and protests of Viet Nam and a few high profile assassinations. Much of the...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-06-2019, 06:42 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 10,358
Posted By Ohio
Re: John Ingalls

When Titus Chu (Midwest LC's) and Dong (S. America LC's) were excommunicated, the Blendeds based all their actions and writings on what WL did and taught and spoke privately when he expelled both Max...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-05-2019, 08:27 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 10,358
Posted By Ohio
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Depends on who you ask. The story I heard from WL for years was not exactly what matched the facts, or how Dr. Lily Hsu wrote about it.

One thing became certain to me. What WL told us about Nee...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-05-2019, 08:15 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 10,358
Posted By Ohio
Re: Ron Kangas - Mid-summer crisis - Love Prevailed

Hey Brother Indiana, do you feel the love?
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 12-03-2019, 03:02 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 10,358
Posted By Ohio
Re: John Ingalls

I have mentioned this before, but I'll repeat. For me this seems to be the basic, underlying, and fatal flaw of exclusive systems. I saw it with the Catholics, the Amish, the Brethren, Nee, Lee,...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 12-03-2019, 02:30 PM
Replies: 40
Views: 2,034
Posted By Ohio
Re: How do you experience the Cross?

It's not a law, it's a reminder, by wearing a bracelet.

Did you ever write a "to do" list or were you ever given a "honey-do" list?

Stop! Tear them all up! You just put yourself under the...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 12-03-2019, 07:56 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 2,034
Posted By Ohio
Re: How do you experience the Cross?

Shouldn't we allow young people their catchy slogans and movements to help them "stop and think," setting their hearts and minds on the Savior?

It was always so characteristic of WL to condemn all...
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