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Forum: Apologetic discussions Today, 03:53 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Plumb the depths of Adoption

This term is somewhat confusing because our titans of industry are corporate leaders.

So, where the Bible says:

Thou crownedst him with glory and honor, And didst set him over the works of thy...
Forum: Apologetic discussions Yesterday, 06:05 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Plumb the depths of Adoption

11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake. 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread Yesterday, 05:04 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Politics and the Church

That's why it is code for 2,000 pounds of dirty laundry.
Forum: Apologetic discussions Yesterday, 09:15 AM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Plumb the depths of Adoption

5 He that overcometh shall thus be arrayed in white garments; and I will in no wise blot his name out of the book of life, and I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. 6 He...
Forum: Apologetic discussions Yesterday, 06:26 AM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Plumb the depths of Adoption

This is true in the NT.

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matt 7:23

Compare:

And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I...
Forum: Apologetic discussions Yesterday, 05:42 AM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Plumb the depths of Adoption

I prefer the way Paul explains it:

13 who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of his love; 14 in whom we have our redemption, the forgiveness...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-21-2018, 08:08 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Plumb the depths of Adoption

The term refers to the ruling and reigning position of Jesus. At the time of the gospel that was much easier to convey with the Roman term than the Hebrew term. At the time of the gospel Israel was...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-21-2018, 07:54 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Plumb the depths of Adoption

Most Greek stories deal with appeasement (a lower stature person trying to mollify the powerful offended person) or clemency (a powerful person trying to subjugate someone else). I am not aware of...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-21-2018, 07:36 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Plumb the depths of Adoption

The NT and Paul never say that this is "what we got" rather this is what we are foreordained to get, and it is never that "we get it" but rather it is "through Jesus".

Jesus has been appointed...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-21-2018, 07:26 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Plumb the depths of Adoption

The term is not that we were "adopted" as it is understood today, but rather

4but when the fulness of the time came, God sent forth his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, 5that he might...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-21-2018, 07:21 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Plumb the depths of Adoption

But that ye may know that the Son of man hath authority on earth to forgive sins...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-21-2018, 04:23 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Plumb the depths of Adoption

If "most Christians" do not properly appreciate the depths of Paul's unique use of the Roman legal word for "adoption," then rather than condemning them in front of all the LC's, he should plumb the...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-20-2018, 07:37 AM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Politics and the Church

What are you talking about. We already have laws where men convicted of sexual crimes can choose to be castrated. That is far more control than we exert on women.
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-20-2018, 06:11 AM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Politics and the Church

It is a very ugly situation.

Facts:

1. Kavanaugh has had background checks done on him 6 times. These involve talking to coworkers, classmates, professors, neighbors, friends and family. It...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-19-2018, 04:40 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Politics and the Church

By "christian values" are you referring to where he says he did things as a teenager he is now ashamed of and has since repented of?
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-19-2018, 01:22 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Politics and the Church

We are not a purely capitalist society. The fire dept does not work as a function of capitalism (we tried that). Likewise with the police dept and school system.

"Obama Care" and "Medicare" are...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-18-2018, 07:23 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

I view this differently. I have repeatedly been shown in my experience to be foolish and that my thoughts are not God's. As a result I have found the most success in beginning with the assumption...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-18-2018, 02:02 PM
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Views: 291,711
Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Fair enough, lets accept your suggestion that there are human concepts expressed in God's word and let's also accept that there are human concepts expressed in God's word in the OT.

But how are...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-18-2018, 05:13 AM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Wow! I mean Wow! Using this same logic most of the OT chapters are human concepts! No wonder he is called the "MOTA" because he alone is able to tell us which parts of God's word are the God's...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-18-2018, 05:11 AM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Poor poor Christianity?

If you are trying to make a point about "Christianity being invented because the apocalypse didn't come soon enough" then I missed it.
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-17-2018, 02:14 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Politics and the Church

I think we can all agree that accusing someone of this crime 30 years after the "fact" on the eve of the vote for their confirmation with an anonymous accusation has the appearance of evil.

If a...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-17-2018, 05:03 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 359
Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Let's talk about hermeneutics

So we should not throw "blind ultimate authority" behind a verse which says you are not to throw blind ultimate authority over the interpretation of a verse standing alone without regard to the rest...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-16-2018, 04:03 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Poor poor Christianity?

You are completely mistaken. The fact that there are sinners who are sinning does not mean that the opportunity to receive Jesus sacrifice is not open to them and that should they receive that...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-16-2018, 11:57 AM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Let's talk about hermeneutics

Has any attempt to harmonize the viewpoints of modern science been entirely successful? No.

There still is no "theory of everything". No one has explained gravity. No one has explained dark...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-16-2018, 11:47 AM
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Views: 2,577
Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Poor poor Christianity?

Sure. Oldest forms of currency were simply a simplified barter system (cattle, salt, etc.). Things of value that everyone needed were used as a form of money. The problem is that this is foolish. ...
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