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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-17-2017, 01:19 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 7,612
Posted By askseek
Re: It's a Sham

Thanks for the link, Terry. I went and added all of Don Rutledge's insider stories from that thread (several posts) to the excerpt thread for ease of access:
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Forum: Writings of Former Members 04-17-2017, 01:14 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,619
Posted By askseek
Re: important excerpts from Don Rutledge and Jane Anderson

Don R. on Daystar and other business failures

My first conversation regarding Daystar occurred in the Magnolia House in LA around 1970-71 summer time. Frank Deluna’s wife had inherited some...
Forum: Early Lee - Later Lee 04-13-2017, 11:33 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 3,731
Posted By askseek
Who Was The "Real" Witness Lee?

That's a question I found myself wondering yesterday. Four days ago I wrote this:



Obviously I've arrived at a rather strong opinion in the matter, but yesterday I was wondering just how bad he...
Forum: Early Lee - Later Lee 04-12-2017, 08:53 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 3,731
Posted By askseek
Re: WW2 and Lee's imprisonment

Was reading another thread, and Rutledge once again supplied the goods! This little curiosity of mine is now satisfied.
Forum: Early Lee - Later Lee 04-12-2017, 06:52 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 3,731
Posted By askseek
Re: WW2 and Lee's imprisonment

I didn't think to google it earlier, but doing so only yielded the LSM version (http://www.witnesslee.org/life-ministry.html) of the story:

So he was "closely following Nee's ministry" even though...
Forum: Early Lee - Later Lee 04-12-2017, 10:11 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 3,731
Posted By askseek
Who Was The "Real" Witness Lee?

I'd like to know more about Witness Lee's imprisonment by the Japanese during the later stages of World War 2.

I vaguely recall WL's own account from a video message years ago. There was some form...
Forum: Early Lee - Later Lee 04-12-2017, 09:36 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 16,482
Posted By askseek
Re: James Barber - History of Witness Lee

I'm just now seeing this thread. I actually listened to Barber's message over the weekend (linked from another thread) while I was reading some threads here.

One item that really got my attention...
Forum: Suggestions and Feedback 04-11-2017, 08:36 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 3,677
Posted By askseek
Re: Expansion of Content

I've completed my research on this site (and am quite grateful for the abundance of useful information that has helped me a lot).

Here are links to the 2 threads I've created that could be a model...
Forum: Writings of Former Members 04-11-2017, 08:21 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,619
Posted By askseek
Re: important excerpts from Don Rutledge and Jane Anderson

Deputy Authority

[my note: Deputy (aka Delegated) Authority was mentioned several times in the above excerpts. It's a key concept for understanding LC history and its leadership system, so I'm...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 04-11-2017, 08:12 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 5,516
Posted By askseek
Re: Helpful Insights from old posts

(note: this is my fusion of recent posts by aron and Ohio)

In the LC "love the ministry" overturned "love your neighbor." If your neighbor wasn't "for the ministry" you could throw him under the...
Forum: Writings of Former Members 04-11-2017, 06:05 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,619
Posted By askseek
Re: important excerpts from Don Rutledge and Jane Anderson

Don R. on family

In the LC there was a real lack of vision regarding the very crucial and critical role of the family in God's plan and purpose. Sadly, in the LC, many parents made serious...
Forum: Writings of Former Members 04-11-2017, 06:01 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,619
Posted By askseek
Re: important excerpts from Don Rutledge and Jane Anderson

Don R. on James Barber

As we all desire to sort through our journey with Christ and our common experience in the LC, it is important to consider James Barber. Few brothers had such a defining...
Forum: Writings of Former Members 04-11-2017, 05:59 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,619
Posted By askseek
Re: important excerpts from Don Rutledge and Jane Anderson

Back in 2007, before he had revealed his true identity, Don Rutledge posted this on the Berean forum about the cover-up of the adultery of Irving, Texas elder Ben McPherson in the early 1980s

Ray...
Forum: Writings of Former Members 04-11-2017, 05:56 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,619
Posted By askseek
Re: important excerpts from Don Rutledge and Jane Anderson

request for Don R. to clarify leadership roles

You refer to Lee, Barber, and Rapoport as the main leaders in the LC. In America my impression is that Lee was the main leader and under him were...
Forum: Writings of Former Members 04-11-2017, 05:53 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,619
Posted By askseek
Re: important excerpts from Don Rutledge and Jane Anderson

John So and Don Rutledge publicly rebuked by Witness Lee in 1978

The LSM office had seemly come out of nowhere and began setting the direction for the individual local churches. This was raising...
Forum: Writings of Former Members 04-11-2017, 05:51 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,619
Posted By askseek
Important excerpts from Don Rutledge and Jane Anderson

I've recently spent a lot of time here learning the real history of Witness Lee and the Local Church. An important part of this has been creating my own files of excerpts for my own reference. It's...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-10-2017, 07:04 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 7,612
Posted By askseek
Re: It's a Sham

And thanks aron for several informative posts that really drove the point home.

But thankfully you also provided some healthy contrast, like in #11:
Jesus repeatedly said that the safe position...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-10-2017, 06:42 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 7,612
Posted By askseek
Re: It's a Sham

That's a good example about calling but not in a repetitious or even out loud manner. Similar to what I just posted about the nuance of "ministry" so too there can be different ways of what "calling...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-10-2017, 06:29 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 7,612
Posted By askseek
Re: It's a Sham

Thanks for sharing about wrestling with these issues for 32 years. "The answers are both simple and complex" is a very helpful to hear.

And from your link I read the "Opening Words" document. I...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-10-2017, 06:21 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 7,612
Posted By askseek
Re: It's a Sham

Thanks for your testimony. It's encouraging for me.

I'm not bitter about my LC history or anything in my past, and am grateful for a number of things. My faith situation is quite different from...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 04-09-2017, 10:47 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 5,516
Posted By askseek
Re: Helpful Insights from old posts

Deputy Authority

This is a key concept for a proper understanding of LC history and its leadership system.

http://localchurchdiscussions.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=630

The thread has the...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-09-2017, 07:48 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 7,612
Posted By askseek
Re: It's a Sham

I came back for some more reading this weekend. There are many important facets to better understand the LC and our own experiences in it, and thankfully the documents and threads here provide a...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 03-26-2017, 04:42 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 5,516
Posted By askseek
Re: Helpful Insights from old posts

Where do we go from here?

http://localchurchdiscussions.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?p=4602

This is a very helpful discussion with much insight.
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 03-25-2017, 01:22 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 5,516
Posted By askseek
Re: Helpful Insights from old posts

The following may be "controversial" (to quote myself) but it's quite helpful to me, addressing important items I was fuzzy about. These are two successive posts that I quote here verbatim.

Items...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 03-25-2017, 01:11 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 5,516
Posted By askseek
Re: Helpful Insights from old posts

http://localchurchdiscussions.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=5171

I link the entire thread because there are a number of good points in the first 30 or so posts (I didn't read much further).
Post...
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