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Forum: Calling All Saints! 06-25-2016, 11:39 PM
Replies: 71
Views: 22,375
Posted By bearbear
Re: All natural things are bad?

Lee's teaching on natural love and affection is unscriptural. Paul criticizes those without natural affection (astergeo) in Rom 1:31 and 2nd Tim 3 :1-3 suggesting they are destined for God's wrath....
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 04-08-2016, 03:45 AM
Replies: 58
Views: 11,033
Posted By bearbear
Re: Los Angeles Premier of Play Written about the Local Church

There's more info in an interview with the playwright where he explains his motivations behind the play and his own experiences growing up in the LC:
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Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 09-16-2015, 02:05 AM
Replies: 243
Views: 101,345
Posted By bearbear
Re: Double Standards

Interesting observations brother Freedom. My thinking is these double standards are built on the foundational narrative of there being a "Lord's Recovery": that Witness Lee was the MOTA, the LCs...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 09-16-2015, 01:21 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 4,536
Posted By bearbear
Re: picketers outside conferences

I remember coming across one of these picketers as I was driving away from a regional type conference in Santa Clara or San Jose (not Burlingame) where Ron Kangas was speaking. Can't remember the...
Forum: Glorious Church Life! 09-15-2015, 10:24 PM
Replies: 253
Views: 125,152
Posted By bearbear
Re: Questions about Daystar

I think part of the frustration many feel here from the Day Star debacle is the apparent lack of transparency. If no crime was committed, why was there a need for so much secrecy and an urgency to...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 08-24-2015, 08:28 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 13,548
Posted By bearbear
Re: David, Saul, and Deputy Authority

The interpretation of David's interaction with Saul encapsulated in the teaching of Deputy Authority is faulty and has been misused to protect leaders from all evaluation and accountability. That's...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 01-17-2015, 06:03 PM
Replies: 1,937
Views: 118,482
Posted By bearbear
Re: Fundamentalism

I think the flavor of Arminianism that says you lose/gain salvation based on a single sin is extreme. Jesus did teach on assurance of salvation saying he would never lose even one of what the the...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 01-17-2015, 05:19 PM
Replies: 1,937
Views: 118,482
Posted By bearbear
Re: Fundamentalism

There's a difference between condemning homosexuals and condemning homosexuality.

Dr. Michael Brown has actually done previous apologetics and debates against the concept that you can be gay and...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 01-16-2015, 11:09 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 26,800
Posted By bearbear
Re: Synchrony

This mindset of Witness Lee is so contradictory to

2 Samuel 22:31
"As for God, his way is perfect: The LORD's word is flawless; he shields all who take refuge in him."

It is startling how far...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 01-16-2015, 10:43 PM
Replies: 1,937
Views: 118,482
Posted By bearbear
Re: Fundamentalism

Here's another very recent one by Dr. Michael Brown on Newsweek in defense of evangelicals and biblical inerrancy which touched on many points made here and by Bart Ehrmann both for and against.
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Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 01-14-2015, 08:50 PM
Replies: 1,937
Views: 118,482
Posted By bearbear
Re: Fundamentalism

That's interesting you had a background in David Wilkerson's ministry. To my understanding a lot of people were helped tangibly and came out of drug abuse and dangerous lifestyle through that...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 01-14-2015, 08:45 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 41,639
Posted By bearbear
Re: Signs of Decline in LSMs Recovery - Tomes

From my personal contact with other Christians, virtually no one has heard of Witness Lee, except for those who attended Christian clubs in university. A friend of mine who attended Intervarsity said...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 01-11-2015, 05:32 PM
Replies: 1,937
Views: 118,482
Posted By bearbear
Re: Fundamentalism

There are also examples of places where non-socialist, conservative capitalism has succeeded such as Hong Kong and Switzerland. Norway is exceptional because of its abundant oil resources which have...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 01-09-2015, 05:12 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 18,734
Posted By bearbear
Re: Forgiving Witness Lee

Jesus gave us many warnings of false prophets and teachers perhaps for a good reason because they cause so much destruction. Lee is long dead now, though the spirit of Lee is still alive in the LCs....
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 01-09-2015, 04:02 PM
Replies: 1,937
Views: 118,482
Posted By bearbear
Re: Fundamentalism

The reason for US's many problems is regulatory capture and government corruption

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture

which I believe is so deep now that there's probably not...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 01-06-2015, 08:09 PM
Replies: 97
Views: 34,518
Posted By bearbear
Re: Living with an LC spouse...

Great advice Paul and I look forward to reading more of your posts here. Our war is not against flesh and blood but against spiritual forces which require weapons not in the natural but in the...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 01-05-2015, 03:22 AM
Replies: 488
Views: 278,646
Posted By bearbear
Re: Sacrafice and Sail On - Book by Philip Lin

Philip Mantoufa, now a church pastor in Indonesia shares a powerful testimony on CBN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CXsdrxX9t4&feature=youtu.be

He was sexually molested by a church leader as...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 01-05-2015, 02:35 AM
Replies: 488
Views: 278,646
Posted By bearbear
Re: Sacrafice and Sail On - Book by Philip Lin

Everyone is responsible for making their own decisions, but scripture places more responsibilities on those in authority than followers:

James 3:1 says "Not many of you should become teachers, my...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 01-04-2015, 07:13 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 32,120
Posted By bearbear
Re: Faith through experiential knowledge of God

The answer is Jesus who abides in the Father's love, is also himself God, who lives in us through the Holy Spirit, who also loves each of us personally and invites us to share in the experience of...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 01-03-2015, 09:14 PM
Replies: 488
Views: 278,646
Posted By bearbear
Re: Sailing On Over the Truth Again

The New Testament makes a distinction between 1) making mistakes / stumbling into sin versus 2) a lifestyle held in bondage by sin resulting in regular, continual practice of sinning which is...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 01-03-2015, 04:00 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 32,120
Posted By bearbear
Re: Faith through experiential knowledge of God

If you think about it, Ananias was that one more person involved in Paul's experience that confirmed the Damascus incident was from the resurrected Jesus and not a random hallucination. Also, as...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 01-01-2015, 10:58 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 32,120
Posted By bearbear
Re: Faith through experiential knowledge of God

Here's a quote I found in the life study of Proverbs, Ecclesiastes and Song of Songs Ch.8 Section 2:

http://www.ministrybooks.org/books.cfm?xid=M9FL49JRQ0MKS

"To understand the Bible is not...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 01-01-2015, 10:30 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 16,420
Posted By bearbear
Re: immuno_oncology

In 2 Peter 1:5-11 Peter suggests that our calling and election have to confirmed by an ever increasing sanctification:

"For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 01-01-2015, 09:58 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 16,420
Posted By bearbear
Re: immuno_oncology

I used to also be nervous about using the correct or best bible translation.

But after understanding how to use interlinears and concordances, a lot of that nervousness went away after realizing...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 01-01-2015, 09:24 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 32,120
Posted By bearbear
Re: Faith through experiential knowledge of God

1 Cor 13:12 (NLT)
Now we see things imperfectly, like puzzling reflections in a mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity. All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then...
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