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Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice Today, 06:46 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Need fellowship here

The LSM-affiliated assemblies gather and sing, "The love of God, so rich and pure, so measureless and strong; it shall evermore endure the saints' and angels' song". Every Sunday morning they...
Forum: Early Lee - Later Lee Yesterday, 08:35 AM
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Views: 311
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Re: Early Lee: The church in Los Angeles 1963

When all the Anaheim elders resigned, Witness Lee characterized it as, "People change", implying that they'd somehow "lost the vision" or deviated from the straight path of "recovery". In actuality...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice Yesterday, 03:23 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 127
Posted By aron
Re: Need fellowship here

There are different ways to look at the same truth. My way is this: as soon as you think about yourself, your heart, your love (or lack thereof) you fail. The Bible is about Jesus: his love, his...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-15-2018, 07:00 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 3,649
Posted By aron
Re: LSM versus Christian teaching, 1965 - 2015

"In many counselors is safety, and success", said Proverbs. Watchman Nee drew on this motif heavily, and his use of multiple sources was celebrated by Lee and other followers. Yet somehow with Nee,...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-14-2018, 11:33 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 3,649
Posted By aron
Re: LSM versus Christian teaching, 1965 - 2015

Yes, it's a thinly disguised put-down. What A&C affirms, they already know, anyway, because they already know everything worth knowing. What they can't affirm is of course wrong because whatever...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-14-2018, 07:47 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 3,649
Posted By aron
Re: LSM versus Christian teaching, 1965 - 2015

First Paragraph of review excerpted below:

a review article of Daniel Boyarin, A Radical Jew: Paul and the Politics of Identity.
(Originally published in Reviews in Religion and Theology 1995/3...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-14-2018, 03:58 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 3,649
Posted By aron
Re: LSM versus Christian teaching, 1965 - 2015

Different words have different meanings to different groups of people, even contemporaries who have much in common. For example, the word "fellowship" is different in LSM-affiliated local churches,...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-12-2018, 07:41 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 3,649
Posted By aron
Re: LSM versus Christian teaching, 1965 - 2015

One of the things that I see in the "grace on steroids" post-Protestant world, just go to the meeting under the right minister and "absorb more God" view, is that we forget that we are sinners. Yes...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-12-2018, 03:35 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 3,649
Posted By aron
Re: LSM versus Christian teaching, 1965 - 2015

Deuteronomy 17 shows the King as a man who loves God's statutes; Psalms 1 and 2 show us the man who loves God's statutes as King, even King of kings. The King over all the nations, and over all the...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-11-2018, 02:33 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 3,649
Posted By aron
Re: LSM versus Christian teaching, 1965 - 2015

This gets close to my argument - why were 3,000 Christian classics produced between the first and 20th centuries, and then once Watchman Nee began to write, none? Henceforth, we were told that only...
Forum: Early Lee - Later Lee 12-11-2018, 02:14 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 311
Posted By aron
Re: Early Lee: The church in Los Angeles 1963

The Early Lee would put up with variety, not because he was magnanimous, or long-suffering, but because his position was weak. Had he imposed uniformity, he would have lost out. But over time the...
Forum: Early Lee - Later Lee 12-11-2018, 02:10 PM
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Views: 311
Posted By aron
Early Lee: The church in Los Angeles 1963

A PUBLIC STATEMENT
made on May 19, 1963

As we realized the need of a proper expression of the Body of Christ, we started to meet together to fulfill this purpose in the Spring of 1962. For an...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-11-2018, 04:17 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 3,649
Posted By aron
Re: LSM versus Christian teaching, 1965 - 2015

In leaving the LSM behind, one must let go of one thought-world and create another. I find scholarly books to be helpful in opening the thought-world which forms the backdrop of the NT.

The book...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-11-2018, 01:02 AM
Replies: 195
Views: 28,634
Posted By aron
Re: the "processed" God

The LSM-directed local church is, for many, an immersive experience, a self-contained thought-world and equally comprehensive ministry-guided "church life" that swallows up one's very being.

For...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-10-2018, 10:29 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 3,649
Posted By aron
From 2012

https://www.degruyter.com/view/product/174187


Reading with an "I" to the heavens, by Angela Kim Harkins. She says that the psalms were a way to enter into transcendant experience, where the...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-10-2018, 10:23 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 3,649
Posted By aron
Re: LSM versus Christian teaching, 1965 - 2015

Deuteronomy 17 talks of the king who loves the word, and who binds the word to his heart, and obeys it all the time. This is Jesus. In Psalm 1, the man who loves the word and obeys becomes the king...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-10-2018, 04:00 AM
Replies: 195
Views: 28,634
Posted By aron
Re: the "processed" God

Amen to this. How many thousands of messages have been received without question? There's a lot to examine, and a lot of potential examiners. The LSM made their bed, now they have to sleep in it.
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-10-2018, 03:25 AM
Replies: 195
Views: 28,634
Posted By aron
Re: the "processed" God

When reading such non-answers, one's left with the impression that Drake is stalling, buying time 'till the DCP committee can convene and come up with something plausible. I mean, the other poster...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-09-2018, 01:49 AM
Replies: 195
Views: 28,634
Posted By aron
Re: the "processed" God

If Witness Lee had allowed himself to be one voice among many, his ministry would have had some value. We all "see in part", as Paul wrote. (1 Cor 13:9-12)
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-08-2018, 03:32 PM
Replies: 195
Views: 28,634
Posted By aron
Re: the "processed" God

A forum member is processing (no pun intended) the fact that his/her childhood was stolen, and you tell them to move on? Sorry, but their journey does not revolve around your sense of ease and...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-07-2018, 07:41 AM
Replies: 195
Views: 28,634
Posted By aron
Re: the "processed" God

Consummated! ZNP! You forgot the "and consummated" part!
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-07-2018, 07:38 AM
Replies: 195
Views: 28,634
Posted By aron
Re: Merged Thread: The Gospel Vs "God's Economy"

There were seven bulbs in Exodus when God told Moses, "See that you build everything according to the Vision shown you on the Holy Mountain." If God needed seven bulbs, they were there already.

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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-07-2018, 01:40 AM
Replies: 195
Views: 28,634
Posted By aron
Re: Merged Thread: The Gospel Vs "God's Economy"

We have a dilemma, then: my Bible says God raised Jesus from the dead, and your Bible says God [the Word] became flesh and this God [incarnated Word as Last Adam] became the Life-Giving Spirit. And...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-07-2018, 01:15 AM
Replies: 195
Views: 28,634
Posted By aron
Re: the "processed" God

I think this is relative to the conversation. Questioning Lee is essential to the recovery's survival. People can't do it in person, and so are forced to do so online. Thus, this forum and this...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 12-06-2018, 01:01 PM
Replies: 195
Views: 28,634
Posted By aron
Re: the "processed" God

Divine facts brought in by NT authors:

Paul: "That makes us all liars because we said that God raised Christ from the dead. But God did not raise Christ from the dead if the dead do not come to...
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