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Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 05-18-2018, 04:42 PM
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Posted By aron
Re: How the LCM Affects Personality

You're ready when the brothers say you're ready. What could be simpler than that.

Banners for the summer training:

1. Leadership is always right.
2. God's leading is always through God's...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 05-07-2018, 09:49 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 924
Posted By aron
Re: How I got here, and what is this place?

The constant stream of negative assessments on "Christianity", from the most blatant ("satanic, devilish, deformed") to the more subtle ("not many Christians know that. . .") has several mutually...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-07-2018, 03:22 AM
Replies: 462
Views: 5,024
Posted By aron
Re: Poor, poor Christianity...

Only Jesus has passed the veil. I get along pretty well with most of the posters on this forum; it is the self- righteous that I'm calling out here. Why judge poor Christianity but not Lee? Why the...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-07-2018, 03:02 AM
Replies: 83
Views: 864
Posted By aron
Re: Paul, An Apostle of Christ movie take away

Maybe similar to when local churchers "get life" when they do something? Like,"My subjectivity is okay; yours is not"?

Oneness in the LC is a moving target. Just when you think you have it they...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-07-2018, 01:14 AM
Replies: 462
Views: 5,024
Posted By aron
Re: Poor, poor Christianity...

You're on a roll of righteous self-indignation; why stop when you get to the LC? Why the special treatment, why the respecting of persons? God is not a respecter of persons; why are you?

Witness...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-06-2018, 02:34 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 864
Posted By aron
Re: Paul, An Apostle of Christ movie take away

I've told this joke before - hopefully enough time has passed & some new readers will enjoy it.

Joe: Hey Fred, did you hear that the apostle John really blasted us in his letter from Patmos?
...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 05-05-2018, 02:03 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 924
Posted By aron
Re: How I got here, and what is this place?

Jesus spoke of His relationship with the Father. AND (sorry but I simply had to all-cap) He spoke of this relationship presaged in scripture. See e.g. Luke 18:31; 22:37; 24:44; Rom 1:1,2. . . I could...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 05-05-2018, 01:52 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 924
Posted By aron
Re: How I got here, and what is this place?

Jo S, I hear the Shepherd's voice when I read scripture. It is very inviting. It truly draws me.

I have no problem with a "personal touch" from the Lord. But if that produces bad fruit, you have...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 05-05-2018, 01:28 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 924
Posted By aron
Re: How I got here, and what is this place?

If Paul's mysticism superseded that of Jesus Christ I would object. Witness Lee, by forcing the contents of his visions on others, showed that he was a fake. A fraud.

There are lots of Christian...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-05-2018, 01:06 PM
Replies: 462
Views: 5,024
Posted By aron
Re: Poor, poor Christianity...

I am glad you got it. I thought I was pretty clear the first time around.

Here is Lee's plea for exemption:

Lee wanted to peer in everyone's messy kitchen, but for you to forgive his. I think...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-05-2018, 12:44 PM
Replies: 462
Views: 5,024
Posted By aron
Re: Poor, poor Christianity...

Drake,

Absolutely not. I already wrote that that there are two related questions here: first, is "Christianity" as "poor" as Lee said it was, and second, is Lee's group somehow exempt?

You...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-05-2018, 12:25 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 864
Posted By aron
Re: Paul, An Apostle of Christ movie take away

Yes, Ohio, now you've got it. Let yourself be carried away by untrammeled subjectivity. When the apostle does it, then it's called taking a stand for the truth. When someone else does it, it's called...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-05-2018, 11:28 AM
Replies: 83
Views: 864
Posted By aron
Re: Paul, An Apostle of Christ movie take away

For the umpteenth time, Jesus alone is the way to the Father. He is not called the Way for nothing.

And there is no "true church" to usher you to Jesus. Faith is the way to Jesus. Martin Luther...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-05-2018, 10:16 AM
Replies: 83
Views: 864
Posted By aron
Re: Paul, An Apostle of Christ movie take away

Agreed. As saying the relative connectedness of others is a waste of time, at best.
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-05-2018, 08:12 AM
Replies: 462
Views: 5,024
Posted By aron
Re: Poor, poor Christianity...

Three words: one publication policy.

Who is impoverished here?

Did Paul quarantine Apollos?
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-05-2018, 08:01 AM
Replies: 83
Views: 864
Posted By aron
Re: Paul, An Apostle of Christ movie take away

Another subjectivist LC doozey - "legitimate" is whatever Lee wanted it to be.

With God there is no shadow cast by turning. The ministry of LSM is nothing but shadows and turnings. Maybe you...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-05-2018, 07:49 AM
Replies: 83
Views: 864
Posted By aron
Re: Paul, An Apostle of Christ movie take away

This is wallowing in the swamp of Lee's subjectivism. Only Jesus Christ meets the standard. To parse others with too fine a comb is to invite judgment. Either the Protestants are "right" and "proper"...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-05-2018, 06:18 AM
Replies: 83
Views: 864
Posted By aron
Re: Paul, An Apostle of Christ movie take away

If the Protestants are a division then why do you sing their songs? You are trying to have it both ways.

The LC treads on the legitimacy of the Protestants in order to gain converts, then rejects...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-05-2018, 06:04 AM
Replies: 83
Views: 864
Posted By aron
Re: Paul, An Apostle of Christ movie take away

"Let us go with him, outside the camp" - the camp is an artificial construction to keep out the dark. Outside the camp, a pure light shines which overcomes the dark. The whole world will be...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-05-2018, 05:44 AM
Replies: 83
Views: 864
Posted By aron
Re: Paul, An Apostle of Christ movie take away

A house divided was in reference to casting out demons. If you cast out Christian's who are not subservient to a publishing house in Anaheim California (note that RK & BP tolerate no deviance from...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-05-2018, 04:43 AM
Replies: 83
Views: 864
Posted By aron
Re: Paul, An Apostle of Christ movie take away

Jesus said, "In my Father's house are many mansions." Is this division? Why not?

And contrast that picture of variety to the bland, man- made uniformity of Babel: bricks, not living stones. Just...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-04-2018, 01:16 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 864
Posted By aron
Re: Paul, An Apostle of Christ movie take away

Good point. I know of at least three times where Christianity was the dominant force in society. Legal, social, political, economic, philosophical, cultural.

1. In the fourth century, it covered...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 05-04-2018, 01:01 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 924
Posted By aron
Re: How I got here, and what is this place?

Here's the problem I have with the 'mystical' thing today. It suckers you in, and at some point you are violating common sense, scripture, your conscience. Because your "feeling" says to.

In the...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-04-2018, 02:58 AM
Replies: 462
Views: 5,024
Posted By aron
Re: Poor, poor Christianity...

Amen to that. The gospel is about Jesus Christ. Paul said, "We do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus". . .contrast that to those who speak of the church, the ground, the ministry, the vision of...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-03-2018, 03:34 PM
Replies: 462
Views: 5,024
Posted By aron
Re: Poor, poor Christianity...

I see two related issues. First, address the assertion "Christianity is lacking", and second, if Christianity is "too poor", as I remember WL putting it, is his ministry somehow exempt? Or is it also...
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