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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 05-03-2018, 08:55 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Now's good - byHismercy

My experience is 20 years ago so maybe it's changed, but back then your loyalty to the program, aka "being in spirit" could be assessed by: a) volume; b) sing-song cadence; c) repeating ministry...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 05-03-2018, 02:46 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Now's good - byHismercy

I disagree. We were told to get out of our mind, period. No qualifiers. As with most of the Lee corpus, what may have originally related to scripture, however faintly, was dumbed down to the point of...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 05-02-2018, 02:08 PM
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Posted By aron
Re: Normal christian church life or cultural christianity?

In the Acts 15 conference there were 'senior members' like Peter and James. But it doesn't seem that they dominated the discussion, only that they concluded it.

Apparently multiple parties got to...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 05-02-2018, 06:37 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Normal christian church life or cultural christianity?

In addition to the "much discussion" in v 7 (NIV), look at the decisionmaking process alluded to in verse 22:

"Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 05-02-2018, 02:56 AM
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Posted By aron
Normal christian church life or cultural christianity?

The Little Flock of Nee began as an indigenous reaction to to imposition of Western culture on the Chinese, including particularly the RCC and Protestant ecclesiastical models. The LF was effectively...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 05-01-2018, 06:17 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Now's good - byHismercy

And WL used his fallen human mind, not his spirit. Look at any Lee ministry passage - "This means that" and "this proves that". Why can't someone else say, "No that doesn't prove that"?


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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 05-01-2018, 03:06 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Now's good - byHismercy

If Witness Lee really wanted us to be in spirit, then why did he tell us to leave our mind? Why was he supposedly the only one who could safely use his mind?
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 05-01-2018, 02:56 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Now's good - byHismercy

You put out spiritual terms like "gaining Christ" and "walking in spirit" then dismiss cultural imperialism with a flippant remark. I can just see them all, coming in the door, to "gain your Christ"....
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-30-2018, 02:38 PM
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Posted By aron
Re: Now's good - byHismercy

Let me restate my point: suppose I was a Bible expositor and over the course of 20-odd years I gave several thousand speeches in front of hundreds of people at a time. And never in al those years did...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-30-2018, 09:54 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Now's good - byHismercy

So if she says we're "bitter and angry" you agree. If she says that we had "thwarted ambitions" you agree. But if I say that Lee was "bitter and angry" then that's a personal attack? If we say Lee...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-30-2018, 09:50 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Now's good - byHismercy

This was a ploy to get us afraid to think. When Peter made a mistake, he was using "human reasoning", or as Lee often put it, "natural thinking" or "fallen human concepts". Yet with Lee (and Nee) we...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-30-2018, 06:19 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Now's good - byHismercy

Most of the rest of us have witnessed this. "Get out of your mind, get your spirit in gear" was the song. Don't think, it will only confuse you.

Witness Lee said he did all the "cooking"...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-29-2018, 02:12 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Now's good

I agree with the above. An irony of the LC (there are many) is that they forbid in others what they celebrate in Mssrs Nee and Lee, viz, the right to think, to inquire, to question, and to make...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-28-2018, 10:51 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Now's good

If you read my history here on this site, I'm nothing if not opinionated. But I also strongly feel that we've been given a ministry of reconciliation, and was just making a general point of that. Our...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-27-2018, 03:00 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Now's good

The fact that the 4th-century church split apart after having just these sorts of conversations shows me a danger here. We are unfortunately too smart by half.

If Mary is the mother of Jesus, and...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-14-2018, 06:22 PM
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Posted By aron
Re: Now's good

The great problem with the LC system is that the subjectivism of Nee and Lee is now writ large across the assemblies and becomes that basis for ascertaining "reality" as it seems to be presenting to...
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