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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-31-2019, 02:44 AM
Replies: 92
Views: 1,296
Posted By RambleOn
Re: 1,000 Years of Outer Darkness

Raptor, thanks for clearing that up for me. I took the queens part out after posting, but you beat me to it. Anyway, the rest of it sounds familiar, but it has been a long while since I read through,...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-31-2019, 01:33 AM
Replies: 92
Views: 1,296
Posted By RambleOn
Re: 1,000 Years of Outer Darkness

I have decided that I cannot comment intelligently about whether this or any teaching of the LCs is accurate or Biblical, but I can confirm for you concretely that this is what they teach and...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 07-24-2019, 02:52 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 2,056
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Quote from today's Witness Wednesday

LSM. Could be a BB, could be the publication work, could be an LSM sanctioned locality. Could be DCP, an arm of LSM. Could be BFA, or LME, or KGB or GRU. (Wait what?) If you are perceived as...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 07-21-2019, 10:21 AM
Replies: 49
Views: 4,252
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Hope for all you church kids

To clarify, this is just personal conversations I've had with people, as opposed to anything official from LSM. There have been a few who have tried to be "helpful" on the Facebook thread, who...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 07-20-2019, 11:57 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 4,252
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Hope for all you church kids

Thank you! I was worried I might have laid it on too thick. :)

I didn't end up going to the FTT, so no invite to the party.
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 07-20-2019, 11:57 AM
Replies: 49
Views: 4,252
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Hope for all you church kids

Aron,

I am also very interested in those sorts of questions. Due to the atmosphere of fear and anxiety present in the LCs, people don't feel liberty to openly discuss doubts, if they have any. The...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 07-18-2019, 02:19 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 4,252
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Hope for all you church kids

Speaking as one such "functional agnostic" who was raised LC, I resent this line of thinking. While there's little room for doubt that this may be the case for some, I can say wholeheartedly that I...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 06-27-2019, 10:09 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,115
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Marriage in the "Lord's Recovery"

What I think is different than other groups is the way you very seldom hear about people openly "dating" or "courting" one another. What you have instead is two people will pretty much secretly be...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 06-27-2019, 08:45 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 2,964
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Intro of an ex "Church Kid"

I, for one, appreciate that you didn't have to have experienced horrible trauma or abuse in order to still be dissatisfied and leave. Much more relatable. It sounds like some people have gone through...
Forum: Papers by various 06-23-2019, 08:05 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 738
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Don Hardy letter

LSM has deep pockets and a demonstrated willingness to litigate. I'm assuming even if he knows the allegations are true, he might not want to get involved in a costly court thing.
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 06-23-2019, 07:59 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 4,664
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Awoken after 38 Years

Does being a smoker self-evidently make you less credible or something?
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 06-16-2019, 12:29 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 4,664
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Awoken after 38 Years

I'm saying for MrsFreedom. She said to feel free to ask any questions about her experience. Many people have left "the recovery" over the years, and many have spoken of it. What is unique about her...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 06-16-2019, 08:18 AM
Replies: 76
Views: 4,664
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Awoken after 38 Years

Thank you again for your courage in being so open about this. Based on the responses, it is clear that many LCers agree with you, but so many of us who come from that world are unwilling or unable to...
Forum: Papers by various 06-14-2019, 05:36 PM
Replies: 214
Views: 13,899
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Open Letter - Dear Saints in the Lord's Recovery

Personal opinion, I don't think the cat has been in the bag for a while. Sure, some people will be shocked to hear of this stuff, but none of it is hard to find if you're interested enough to look....
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 06-14-2019, 09:52 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 796
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Moved from main page: Greetings from RambleOn

Aron,

I have Border Lines added to my Goodreads shelf. I'll post my thoughts when I get around to reading it. Thank you for the recommendation; it sounds interesting.
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 06-13-2019, 09:39 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 796
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Greetings

So much of this resonates with me. I live in a city that is primarily caucasian and black, yet the LC here is like 80 percent Chinese. As far as I've heard, they don't use the term "good building...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 06-13-2019, 08:55 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 796
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Greetings

I agree with all of this, perhaps not so strongly that I have no choice but to believe in an intelligent creator, but certainly I admit that a moment's reflection at almost any aspect of existence...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 06-12-2019, 10:13 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 796
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Greetings

Aron,

Thank you for the welcome. I have read so many posts here over the past few years, I feel as though I know some of you more active members. It feels strange to actually say hello. Looking...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 06-12-2019, 01:39 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 796
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Greetings

I hope so too. I meant the "poor degraded" purely sarcastically. I am open to the idea that there is a creator, but I'm not at all convinced that the story in the Bible is more believable than...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 06-12-2019, 11:55 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 796
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Greetings

Ohio,

Thank you for the warm welcome!

I should drop the pretense - if you get me started on this subject I will talk your ear off, ask anyone who knows me personally. What I mean to say is...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 06-12-2019, 11:28 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 796
Posted By RambleOn
Moved from main page: Greetings from RambleOn

Hello,

I've been a long-time lurker, but I think now is the time to register and join in the conversation. I am a born-and-raised "church kid" in the LC, but I no longer meet, though most of my...
Forum: Papers by various 06-12-2019, 11:18 AM
Replies: 214
Views: 13,899
Posted By RambleOn
Re: Open Letter - Dear Saints in the Lord's Recovery

This letter was posted on 6/9/2019, so yes, very recent.

I was born and raised in the LC, so very much of this letter resonated with me. It is difficult to put into words how frightening and...
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