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Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! Yesterday, 10:27 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 237
Posted By OBW
Re: Why isnt anybody besides Cal, Jo, and Andria speaking out about the Chu

Many have spoken on this forum (and its predecessor, run out of the Philippines) over many years. But certain parts of the discussion became less engaged, and those who did speak often do not...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt Yesterday, 10:15 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,558
Posted By OBW
Re: Wake-up Letter to Minoru

All strange incense and strange music. An abomination. Man's attempt to please God in a manner that He never ordained.
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! Yesterday, 10:10 AM
Replies: 148
Views: 10,683
Posted By OBW
Re: YouTube Channel Discusses the Local Church

Or maybe, like some other fringe groups of the past that eventually became more mainstream Christians, they are on the first steps of a journey from their fringe back into the fold.

Naaahhhh
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications Yesterday, 10:06 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 235
Posted By OBW
Re: Life Study of Revelation Misses Mark RE: "First Love"

And don't forget that while there are specific commands concerning love for the saints, there is also the generic "neighbor" that includes everyone else. This is often understood to mean love the...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 12-04-2019, 12:05 PM
Replies: 40
Views: 1,748
Posted By OBW
Re: How do you experience the Cross?

Don't forget that you are asking the question in the middle of a context "Making sense of the Lord's Recovery Movement."

So, as we both said, without context, it is entirely true. Those without...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-04-2019, 11:39 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 199
Posted By OBW
Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

A,

This whole discussion (in the greater forum and here) is a waste of electrons. Whether you like the word that we now use to refer to the collective of the followers of Christ, in assemblies and...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 12-04-2019, 11:04 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 1,748
Posted By OBW
Re: How do you experience the Cross?

The answer is simple. It is definitially impossible.

The problem is that there are so many trying to define what it means to have the life of Christ within us. Some try to say that you need to...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 12-02-2019, 04:43 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,558
Posted By OBW
Re: Wake-up Letter to Minoru

There it is . . . MTLCGA! Make the Local Churches Great Again!

And like the other "great again" slogan, the unanswered question is when you (me, whoever) thinks that was. If it ever was. Typically...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 11-28-2019, 09:14 AM
Replies: 580
Views: 31,122
Posted By OBW
Re: Climate Change

Not really. Sure it has problems. But virtually everything in which man has anything to do with has problems.

But if it is in shambles, why do the rich of the world keep coming to the US for...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 11-28-2019, 08:55 AM
Replies: 5,925
Views: 280,614
Posted By OBW
Re: Hiding History

I can agree with the bias. They like their positions. But I do not see in some of the CNN reports/commentators the same kind of attitude that turns a blind eye to everything that contradicts their...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 11-28-2019, 08:12 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 1,748
Posted By OBW
Re: How do you experience the Cross?

I note that, in a different but related way, Paul said that we ARE crucified with Christ, not as something to figure out how to do.

While definitely more extreme, Lee's theology is not that...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 11-07-2019, 09:34 AM
Replies: 5,925
Views: 280,614
Posted By OBW
Re: Hiding History

What we like to think about the near past ignores the more distant history. At the time of the founding of our nation, most newspapers were owned by the wealthy. Generally one wealthy person per...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 11-07-2019, 09:15 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 3,033
Posted By OBW
Re: "Church" is not in the Bible!

Too much concern over words. This is a little like discussions of the Trinity. Each mention has a statement to make. If we take the time to explore the meaning of each word in each place, we probably...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-11-2019, 02:42 PM
Replies: 5,925
Views: 280,614
Posted By OBW
Re: Hiding History

I can agree. But I also recognize that a government of the people will necessarily respond to the majority. It is through reliance on the decency of people that the majority doesn't just jail...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 10-11-2019, 02:31 PM
Replies: 220
Views: 9,299
Posted By OBW
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

And it should be evident that he was taking care to stop anyone from pointing at his egregious behavior again by returning from his relatively brief exile in the 1940s (at the invitation of Lee) to...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 10-09-2019, 10:42 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 4,121
Posted By OBW
Re: Pulled in Two Directions

Somone else can fill in the gaps. But my understanding is that The Spiritual Man is borderline (actual?) plagiarism. He said no one else could see what he saw. But he took almost everything from one...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-09-2019, 10:38 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 214
Posted By OBW
Re: How was Bible inspired?

First, there is at least one non-Jew in the writers . . . Luke. But at least part of his writing is repeating of accounts he did not personally observe (accounts provided by Jewish men . . . and...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 10-09-2019, 10:00 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 602
Posted By OBW
Re: The Pros vs "The Little Children" in Matthew 11

And further to your own post, we don't pick the good bits from Nee and Lee because there is danger that we will find them to be tainted by their leaven and therefore suspect as to whether they are,...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 10-09-2019, 09:56 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 351
Posted By OBW
Re: 1 John 2:27 versus following "The Ministry" in "The Lord`s Recovery" to

There is something about these verses that is profound and strengthening, and at the same time troubling.

What is troubling to me about them is the propensity for some to take them as evidence...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 10-09-2019, 09:40 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 4,121
Posted By OBW
Re: Pulled in Two Directions

There was a thread here some years back concerning the observations of, and accounts provided to, a woman who was in the church in Shanghai for some years up to the time of Nee's trial in China....
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 10-07-2019, 07:15 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 4,121
Posted By OBW
Re: Pulled in Two Directions

You cover a lot of specifics. And there will never be a significant Christian teacher fully legitimate, marginal, or out-and-out sharlatan that does not teach some true things.

But the...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-04-2019, 09:31 AM
Replies: 5,925
Views: 280,614
Posted By OBW
Re: Politics and the Church

While we typically compel the young to recite the pledge at least periodically (it was not daily in my youth, but at times), we require it somewhat as part of the oath an alien must recite to become...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 10-03-2019, 02:06 PM
Replies: 5,925
Views: 280,614
Posted By OBW
Re: Politics and the Church

You are completely missing my point. I am not saying that we should not pledge allegiance to our country. I did not call our country evil. I merely stated (indirectly) that it is part of the kingdom...
Forum: Blogosphere @ LocalChurchDiscussions 10-01-2019, 09:46 AM
Replies: 79
Views: 53,642
Posted By OBW
If Necessary, Use Words

Always preach the gospel; if necessary, use words. Attributed to Francis of Assisi. And someone recently suggested he might not have ever actually said it. Said he was more like a street-corner...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 10-01-2019, 08:41 AM
Replies: 148
Views: 10,683
Posted By OBW
Re: YouTube Channel Discusses the Local Church

And since it was probably never reported on tax returns (a presumption) it was also likely a little bit of a money laundering scheme.
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