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Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 09-19-2017, 07:25 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 382
Posted By Freedom
Re: Music in the LC

These people are also few and far between, and often the reason they like the music is just because it so happens to suite their palate. I was in a meeting once and we were singing the song O...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 09-19-2017, 04:44 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 382
Posted By Freedom
Re: Music in the LC

The 'hallmark' songs that Drake refers to were produced mostly within a short-lived period of time in the LC where people had the freedom to do some song-writing. However, as awareness has already...
Forum: Calling All Saints! 09-12-2017, 07:36 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 793
Posted By Freedom
Re: There is no "life" outside of the LC - satanic lie

Those who are in the LC perceive it to be something that it isn't. Thus, there is a fundamental disconnect at play. More importantly, however, is the fact that the LCM doesn't even remotely resemble...
Forum: Little Flock/Local Church Spinoffs 09-08-2017, 08:40 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 489
Posted By Freedom
Re: Announcement: Titus Chu on YouTube

Interestingly, other groups who follow a single leader don't make any effort to deny it. The LCM makes every effort to deny who they are following. Perhaps the most unhealthy groups are the ones who...
Forum: Calling All Saints! 09-08-2017, 10:25 AM
Replies: 50
Views: 12,928
Posted By Freedom
Re: Life after the LC

Church kids are abnormally sheltered from the outside world. This usually has one of two outcomes. They either reject the LC and religion entirely, or they become dependent on the LC without...
Forum: Little Flock/Local Church Spinoffs 09-08-2017, 10:05 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 489
Posted By Freedom
Re: Announcement: Titus Chu on YouTube

Those in the LC would assert that their "unique leader" is Christ. However, as LC history shows, even starting from day 1, the movement (and its spinoffs) has always practiced following a single...
Forum: Regarding Registering and Posting on this Forum 09-07-2017, 08:51 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 5,822
Posted By Freedom
Re: Why don't Local Church Members Post Here?

Those in the LCM believe that they are part of something special, and so perhaps it is somewhat understandable that they would want to 'brag' a little. Interestingly though, their continual need to...
Forum: Calling All Saints! 09-07-2017, 06:17 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 793
Posted By Freedom
Re: There is no "life" outside of the LC - satanic lie

One prominent theme in WL's ministry was that he repeatedly told people to ignore potentially questionable things for a supposed greater good or for the sake of 'oneness'. As it turns out, the things...
Forum: Calling All Saints! 09-07-2017, 06:10 PM
Replies: 50
Views: 12,928
Posted By Freedom
Re: Life after the LC

My observation was that church kids almost always struggled in the LC, and had a lot of inner-turmoil in regards to whether or not they should remain in the LC. For those who did somehow manage to...
Forum: Little Flock/Local Church Spinoffs 09-07-2017, 04:37 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 489
Posted By Freedom
Re: Announcement: Titus Chu on YouTube

I can't help but notice that in a manner similar to Lee, there is an attempt to present Chu's ministry as something that has been 'released' as a "burden from the Lord." At least they qualify it as...
Forum: Regarding Registering and Posting on this Forum 09-05-2017, 07:35 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 5,822
Posted By Freedom
Re: Why don't Local Church Members Post Here?

In the LC, I encountered situations multiple times where someone went so far as to acknowledge some problem or admit that a situation wasn't right, but that was the extent of concern. The next move...
Forum: Calling All Saints! 09-05-2017, 07:29 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 793
Posted By Freedom
Re: There is no "life" outside of the LC - satanic lie

I think that those in the LCM realize that there isnít much to hold people in, so they resort to fear tactics to counter the ongoing problem of member retention. Ironically, because the LCM purports...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 08-28-2017, 06:40 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 776
Posted By Freedom
Re: The Bait of Satan, by John Bevere

I am a bit curious Ė in a LC-specific context, what did you find to be helpful about the book? The reason that I ask is because in the LC, I always felt that there as a noticeable effort made to warn...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 08-28-2017, 12:57 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 1,247
Posted By Freedom
Re: Out of Egypt

Very true. As a follow-up to what I posted earlier, along with what Terry posted, it seems like the tendency to ignore those who have 'disappeared' from the LC is something that is quite deliberate. ...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 08-28-2017, 09:00 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 1,247
Posted By Freedom
Re: Out of Egypt

It actually is quite telling that LC elders will ignore those who have left or 'disappeared'. Given the job description of elders, it is completely reasonable to expect them to at least contact...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 08-22-2017, 09:16 PM
Replies: 123
Views: 3,036
Posted By Freedom
Re: "The Matter of Gaining African-Americans"

Good points. Likewise, I have no intention to question those who have felt to look past things that concerned them. But by the same token, it can't be expected that everyone would have that kind of...
Forum: Writings of Former Members 08-17-2017, 07:15 PM
Replies: 79
Views: 2,294
Posted By Freedom
Re: New Book by Henry Hon

I already stated that it his book looks to be his own spin on some of Lee's teachings. But as you know, I don't find Lee's teachings to be appealing either. Regardless, he was kicked out of the LCM...
Forum: Writings of Former Members 08-17-2017, 07:02 PM
Replies: 79
Views: 2,294
Posted By Freedom
Re: New Book by Henry Hon

The situation with Hon highlights one of the big reasons that the LCM is in a state of decline. The only thing that Hon did 'wrong' was that he took something that Lee taught seriously and attempt to...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 08-10-2017, 08:57 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 722
Posted By Freedom
Re: "We don't care for doctrines." - Lee

One definition that I came across for the word doctrine is "a codification of beliefs." Every group has a set of beliefs that they adhere to. So if Lee's mantra were to be taken literally, it would...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 08-10-2017, 08:42 PM
Replies: 46
Views: 1,376
Posted By Freedom
Re: What is Today's Jerusalem for Christians - Part 2

The LCM is only persecuted in the sense that they suffer from a persecution complex. And it really is sad and shameful they way that they treat everyone else in attempt to rationalize their movement.
Forum: Apologists Speak out regarding The Local Church 08-10-2017, 08:38 PM
Replies: 253
Views: 9,144
Posted By Freedom
Re: The Bible Answer Man Converts to The Eastern Orthodox Church!

Nice try, but youíre comparing apples and oranges. Groups like the EOC and RCC each lay claim to be the one true church:
Between protestant Christianity as a whole, and the groups noted above, it is...
Forum: Apologists Speak out regarding The Local Church 08-10-2017, 09:42 AM
Replies: 253
Views: 9,144
Posted By Freedom
Re: The Bible Answer Man Converts to The Eastern Orthodox Church!

I don't see the problem with the backlash against Hank's sudden change. There is no reason why all his listeners should have to treat his conversion to EO like it's not a big deal.

The issue here...
Forum: Apologists Speak out regarding The Local Church 08-08-2017, 07:40 PM
Replies: 253
Views: 9,144
Posted By Freedom
Re: The Bible Answer Man Converts to The Eastern Orthodox Church!

Itís sad to think how blissfully unaware all those in the LCM are to the rampant deception that is going on. Back in the 70ís when the LCM was brought under scrutiny by the counter-cult movement,...
Forum: Apologists Speak out regarding The Local Church 08-08-2017, 09:45 AM
Replies: 253
Views: 9,144
Posted By Freedom
Re: The Bible Answer Man Converts to The Eastern Orthodox Church!

That is an article that I came across a while back. There are a lot of things about Hank that don't add up. I didn't listen to the recording, but at the linked site for the recording, there are some...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 08-06-2017, 09:22 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 462
Posted By Freedom
Re: Christian Chen -- With the Lord

I am not familiar with who Christian Chen is. How long ago was Chen quarantined, and what is the story behind it?
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